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Pop (One Direction, Hedley, 1975) Saturation Plugins
Old 22nd July 2014
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Pop (One Direction, Hedley, 1975)

Hi everyone!

Here's a song I just finished! I co-wrote it, produced, recorded, mixed and mastered so some fresh ears on the mix are more than welcome!

Thanks!
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Top Of The World (1.0).mp3 (7.92 MB, 345 views)

Old 23rd July 2014
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Sounds friggin' perfect to me! Nice work!
Old 23rd July 2014
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Luc, sounds really good. First knee jerk reaction was the vocals could stand for a bit more de-essing. Just my taste, but really there is nothing wrong with this mix!

-Tom Miller
Old 23rd July 2014
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Sounds friggin' perfect to me! Nice work!
Thank you very much!

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Luc, sounds really good. First knee jerk reaction was the vocals could stand for a bit more de-essing. Just my taste, but really there is nothing wrong with this mix!

-Tom Miller
Thanks! Yeah might be a bit too much "esses"! Just a tiny threshold to lower and problem's gone!
Old 23rd July 2014
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Mix sounds great. I'm listening on laptop speakers and 3K-4K cuts through. Lower mids of the kick, 800-1K, cut as well. Getting those right on laptop speakers is always a challenge for me. Great job
Old 24th July 2014
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Mix sounds great. I'm listening on laptop speakers and 3K-4K cuts through. Lower mids of the kick, 800-1K, cut as well. Getting those right on laptop speakers is always a challenge for me. Great job
Thank you very much!
Old 5th August 2014
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radio-friendly superloud mix. translates good on laptop, yes
Old 7th August 2014
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radio-friendly superloud mix. translates good on laptop, yes
Thanks!
Old 14th August 2014
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Sounds really good. Definitely nails that kind of pop-genre mix.

-guitars have a slight mid high resonance (especially in the verse guitars)
-wouldn't mind a bit more low end (more bass and more subs in kick)
-would've tracked the background vocals so they're wider and have a more "polished" feel to them

but once again, great job!
Old 14th August 2014
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Sounds really good. Definitely nails that kind of pop-genre mix.

-guitars have a slight mid high resonance (especially in the verse guitars)
-wouldn't mind a bit more low end (more bass and more subs in kick)
-would've tracked the background vocals so they're wider and have a more "polished" feel to them

but once again, great job!
Thanks!
Old 15th August 2014
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on second listen - too much contrast between verse and chorus in volume, guitars are too wooly, no bite in chorus, not enough glue betwwen the parts.
Old 18th August 2014
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radio-friendly superloud mix. translates good on laptop, yes
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on second listen - too much contrast between verse and chorus in volume, guitars are too wooly, no bite in chorus, not enough glue betwwen the parts.
Old 21st August 2014
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How are you tucking in the backing/stacked stereo vocals? They are fairly loud but don't take over intelligibility/width...is that mostly an aggressive low pass that helps with that?

Also in a mix that has to be loud and upfront like this I find it can be difficult to get the ambiance fully correct. I can hear some mono delay under the lead vocal, and in some parts some stereo delay is a bit more obvious. As well in some sections the reverb (or a short ambiance) is important for artistic reason. Are you constantly riding the sends to all of these (and more) depending on the section and feel of phrases...and/or is anything constantly there for glue or atmosphere to be consistent? Reverb especially I'm wondering about as I find it can glue multiple voices together, but it can be dangerous in such a modern mix. Any tips or hints I would appreciate!

I do notice that in some parts with all of the stacked vocals it can sound kind of synth-y modern/phasey. Is that from tuning the stacks of vocals or do you run vocals through modulation stuff to get them to pop out a bit?

I like the low end increase/impact at 2:00 too!
Old 29th August 2014
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How are you tucking in the backing/stacked stereo vocals? They are fairly loud but don't take over intelligibility/width...is that mostly an aggressive low pass that helps with that?
Different type of back vocals (3th, 5th, pads, ohs, etc) are routed to different busses and processed as a whole. I do use a high pass but no low pass.

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Also in a mix that has to be loud and upfront like this I find it can be difficult to get the ambiance fully correct. I can hear some mono delay under the lead vocal, and in some parts some stereo delay is a bit more obvious. As well in some sections the reverb (or a short ambiance) is important for artistic reason. Are you constantly riding the sends to all of these (and more) depending on the section and feel of phrases...and/or is anything constantly there for glue or atmosphere to be consistent? Reverb especially I'm wondering about as I find it can glue multiple voices together, but it can be dangerous in such a modern mix. Any tips or hints I would appreciate!
Well during the verses I tried to get things sounding smaller, thinner and more narrow than in the choruses. So that's why you hear mono slap echo or shorter verbs during the verses. I do use a lot of automation on sends.

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I do notice that in some parts with all of the stacked vocals it can sound kind of synth-y modern/phasey. Is that from tuning the stacks of vocals or do you run vocals through modulation stuff to get them to pop out a bit?
There's some chorus / split harmonizer going the back vocals but there's also a lot of synths in the background.
Old 29th August 2014
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Thanks very much. I'm going to have to experiment a bit with modulation on backups or on hook parts that need to sound "big" or modern...for some reason that subtle phasey sound that I initially thought to avoid tends to be a sound that tells us that it's the chorus, and it works well.
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