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Old 19th April 2013
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Rock Mix - Gearfest Competition

Been mixing this Liza Colby Sound track as part of the Gearfest Mixing competition:



Any thoughts/comments welcome!
Old 19th April 2013
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It sounds like good quality stuff. But no doubt my £20 HiFi speakers are complimenting it

What general techniques did you use for the snare to pull through? i'm currently struggling on getting my side chaining and eq to battle my guitars.

Check my SoundCloud out, always looking to impriove my mxiing techniques - https://soundcloud.com/copypasteandl...ast-to-act-2nd

Old 19th April 2013
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What general techniques did you use for the snare to pull through? i'm currently struggling on getting my side chaining and eq to battle my guitars.
Check out the comment section on soundcloud. There you can see what I used to mix it...

On the snare in particular, I have used this chain:
Sonnox Dynamics -> Brent Averill 1028 EQ (Hardware) -> Waves PuigTech EQP-1A

The whole drum bus has been routed to the SSL X-Rack Stereo Bus Compressor, which made the whole drum kit more punchy.
Old 20th April 2013
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Been mixing this Liza Colby Sound track as part of the Gearfest Mixing competition:



Any thoughts/comments welcome!
Everything sounds great, but the vocals could use (more) automation. Some of the words get kinda lost. For a track like this, the vocals should be more up front. Everything else sounds really good though, great work!
Old 6th May 2013
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Glad you found the competition and took part in it.
May the best win!
So far we've had more than 450 mixes submitted. Should be interesting!
Gearfest Mixing Competition
Old 6th May 2013
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sounds bloody good and clean maybe -1db on the guitar? not even jus half db out the mids on the guitar
Old 6th May 2013
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sounds bloody good and clean maybe -1db on the guitar? not even jus half db out the mids on the guitar
Thank you j0el! ;-)
Old 21st May 2013
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Competition entries will be closed in 10 days guys! Hurry up if you want to submit your mix.
Cheers.
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Old 25th May 2013
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I'll submit mine.
Any suggestion about mastering the track, I think I've read something about it.
https://soundcloud.com/ben-bros-stud...iza-colby-mix1
Old 26th May 2013
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Here's mine
https://soundcloud.com/dasoundjunkie...-baby-gearfest
Great fun and a great song
Old 26th May 2013
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I'll submit mine.
Any suggestion about mastering the track, I think I've read something about it.
https://soundcloud.com/ben-bros-stud...iza-colby-mix1
Overall a very nice mix but there's a couple of things that could use a little work. At beginning of the choruses the vocal jumps out in a very unnatural way. Didn't feel like dynamics building, it was just louder all of the sudden. She has HUGE dynamics so you should try to keep her a little more controled. The vocal seems a bit lean and could probably use a little more low/low-mid warmth. And finally the guitar seems a little too bright and is competing a little with her. All these are minor fixes, hope this helps
(edit) As far as mastering is concerned they are going to level match all the entries so I would recommend against it. I DID master mine on autopilot and wish I hadn't because as far as I know u can't repost. No biggie, I didn't make it stupid loud but limiting is limiting
Old 26th May 2013
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Been mixing this Liza Colby Sound track as part of the Gearfest Mixing competition:



Any thoughts/comments welcome!
Good balance of all the elements in the track with very nice spread on the guitar but I agree with Myr about keeping her dynamics a little more in check, easy fixes
Good Job
Old 26th May 2013
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I posted the mixed version not the mastered one but the f ckin algo of soundcloud maximises everything...

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Old 27th May 2013
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Here's my mix.



On the home recording forum they say there's over 1 200 mixes.
Tough job to listen all those mixes and pick a winner.

I listened mixes posted here and wrote some feedback.
Don't forget to document your work as it is required.

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I posted the mixed version not the mastered one but the f ckin algo of soundcloud maximises everything...
Don't worry the soundcloud mp3 sound because they will download your mix.
Just make sure to check that download box and upload as a wav file.
Old 27th May 2013
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Here's my mix.

Don't worry the soundcloud mp3 sound because they will download your mix.
Just make sure to check that download box and upload as a wav file.
Indeed. Do not worry about it.
We will have direct access to the raw files.
Old 28th May 2013
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Here is my mix:

Tried to keep it pretty natural an simple. Kinda happy with it.
Old 28th May 2013
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Ha! The unofficial gearslutz thread :)

Old 31st May 2013
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Game over is soon ! Here is my version of the mix.



All comments and criticism are appreciated. Thank you!
Old 1st June 2013
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As for the Gear I used....Mixed in my basement project studio, using ProTools 8LE. I did not use any hardware, all was done ITB. My monitors are Amrita Kronos, with a QSC PLX power amp. I used TL space for the Vocal and Guitar reverb, I used Reel Tape Saturation on the Master Fader for a little retro saturation to the sound. I had a Fab Filter Limiter last on the mix buss, but my levels didn’t touch the ceiling…I used it just to see my RMS level, trying to stay in the recommended -16,-18 range.
I didn't do any eq with the bass tracks, it sounded right with both faders up, and a couple db of Massey CT5 on the Bass buss.. For the drums, I used a little Massey eq on the kick, and Massey CT5 for a little drum buss parallel compression.
I duplicated the snare track, and put the stock DIGI Gate and the stock Digi Compressor on the duplicate snare track to get the snare to punch out a few db in the mix.
I spent a little time trial and error on flipping the phase between the drum tracks, but I got it pretty good without doing any “nudging” of the tracks.
I gave the guitar track had a little low midrange boost using Fabfilter Pro-Q, and just a little TL space reverb panned hard right for some depth.
The Vocal track had a chain of BF LA-3A, Massey eq, Massey CT5 compression, followed by BF Fairchild 660. I manually fixed a couple sibilant sssss’s, but there were only a few spots that bothered me, so I did not use a desser. I manually “ducked” the fader on a the word “Louder” in the first verse, and the first F in “Feel it” on the second verse, but other than that I let the vocal performance be dynamic without crushing it. All plug-ins were used at light settings, just a db or 2 , and mostly for the retro tone and a soft dynamic control.. (More info below)

As for my artistic intentions...I had a good vision of how I wanted to mix this song, and I am very happy with the result. I was fortunate to be in the front row near the center for the Fab Dupont's tracking session at Sweetwater's Gearfest 2012. It was a great live performance, and the Drummer was stage left, and Guitarist stage right...So in my mix, I panned the Drums and Guitar a bit left and right, the way it sounded to me live. In addition to that, I listen to alot of music styles, and I particularly spent about an hour every night for 2 weeks listening to music that I thought had a similar "vibe" to the Liza Colby Sound. I think the old school (60’s) way of recording drums panned hard left (or right), and creating a stereo sound stage with creative use of panning techniques guided my taste in mixing Oh Baby, although I did not pan too extreme left amd right…I tried to keep it natural, but with some retro vibe influence.
I resisted the temptation to use special effects and drum triggers… I tried it, and then said forget it, keep it real. So it’s all real, with a little reverb, and panning for the effects.
As for the clapping at the end....well, if it was a live concert, I am sure there would have been thunderous applause in the beginning and the end of the song, with some cheers during the softer passages. However, since the forum was a recording seminar, the applause at the end was way too "polite", and frankly not long enough without copying and pasting extensions to get a decent fadeout. I tried it, it sounded cheesy, and so I cropped it out. To my ears, my Oh Baby mix sounds like a late 60's early 70's studio recording. It was a great song to mix, an awesome fun contest to enter...I am very happy with the result, and I gave this my best shot.
Thank you to PureMix, Dangerous Music, and Sweetwater for putting this contest together.
Best regards,
ElectricBillYetti-
Old 2nd June 2013
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2800 mixes submitted.
Judges are going to have fun!
Old 2nd June 2013
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2800 mixes submitted.
Judges are going to have fun!
Hello PureMix,
Did 2800 exceed your expectations?
I'm thinking it did.
Old 2nd June 2013
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Worst job ever.

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Old 3rd June 2013
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Here's my entry, submitted a couple of hours before the deadline last night!

Old 3rd June 2013
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2800 mixes submitted.
Judges are going to have fun!
Hi mates, in the rules it is written that the mixes had to be posted BEFORE the 1st of June, and I saw mixes being posted way after the deadline, and some even today on the 3rd of June.

What's going on guys ? It's not fair for people who posted their mixes according to the rules as they could have had more time to fix little niggles from their mixes.

It's not even announced that the competition is closed or not.

Another question, I could have read that the puremix TEAM would be responsible to select the good mixes from the less good ones, how will they do that ?? Do you have a team of mixing specialists working in the team ??

What will be the criteria for selection ? just pure matter of taste or will there be technical/sonic benchmarks to separate the best from the not very good ones ?

Thanks for your time cheerz
Old 5th June 2013
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Heres my enrty. Good luck to all.
Attached Files

OH BABY final mix.m4a (7.31 MB, 109 views)

Old 6th June 2013
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Hi mates, in the rules it is written that the mixes had to be posted BEFORE the 1st of June, and I saw mixes being posted way after the deadline, and some even today on the 3rd of June.

What's going on guys ? It's not fair for people who posted their mixes according to the rules as they could have had more time to fix little niggles from their mixes.

It's not even announced that the competition is closed or not.

Another question, I could have read that the puremix TEAM would be responsible to select the good mixes from the less good ones, how will they do that ?? Do you have a team of mixing specialists working in the team ??

What will be the criteria for selection ? just pure matter of taste or will there be technical/sonic benchmarks to separate the best from the not very good ones ?

Thanks for your time cheerz
I don't think the Puremix team would break their own rules, so I am sure that entries uploaded after the deadline are not considered.
I copied and pasted this from the entry rules:

Before June 1st 2013, upload and submit your mix on SoundCloud on this official Soundcloud Group. (soundcloud.com/groups/gearfest-mixing-contest)

All entries will be listened to by the pureMix.net team and the 16 winners will be picked by Fab Dupont on a basis of mixing skills, tone crafting, use of space, taste and creativity.


Of course it's all very subjective, so I guess you just have to mix it the way that you like it, within the context of the rules, and hope for the best.
Old 6th June 2013
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Hadn't realized this was sort of the centralized place where people were posting their entry. Here's my entry - done in a few hours on the 31st of May - really last minute.

Had I known that the deadline was so flexible I might have spent a bit more time on it. Oh well. Any critique is appreciated!
Old 6th June 2013
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Hadn't realized this was sort of the centralized place where people were posting their entry. Here's my entry - done in a few hours on the 31st of May - really last minute.

Had I known that the deadline was so flexible I might have spent a bit more time on it. Oh well. Any critique is appreciated!
I don't think the deadline is, or was flexible....people can upload mixes to the soundcloud group, but I can't think they would even listen to any late entries, they have enough legitimate entries to sort through and listen too.
As for your mix, I thought it was really good...maybe having less time was a good thing for this particular song. I think the delay was a real nice splash without being over the top.
I read your comment about the snare bleed issues, and yes, I also found the high hat to be harsh "bad bleed" in the snare mic. I compensated for it by duplicating the snare track, and putting a stock digi gate on the duplicate snare track to get it to punch out a bit more.....but I would have been much happier with a cardioid dynamic mic on the snare rather than comprimising the high eq on the snare.
Good luck!
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Here's my entry, submitted a couple of hours before the deadline last night!

Sounds cool, not perfect to me but good.
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