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Slate Digital Releases Audified U73b Tube Compressor Module Dynamics Plugins
Old 3 weeks ago
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Yeah, I just updated to the latest version 2.0.1 or something like that.

Same issue.

U73b/No Oversample = 18% to 28%
W/Oversample = 70% to 109% (meaning clicks and pops)

Novation/No Oversample = 3% to 5%
w/Oversample = 9% to 14%

Novation is thee Best Tube Compressor out to me right now.

Someone needs to help Audified re-write their plugins to be more cpu compatible.

I have yet to use the plugin in a real session.
So much so, I've taken it out and replaced it with Novation, Slate's Tube Stuff,
BRA, Klanghelm, Plugin Alliance, Sonimus and others that have incredible Tube modeled Compressors/Saturation boxes.

Jus Saying....

Marc
Old 3 weeks ago
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Wow conspiracy theories abound! VMR is a wrapper, nothing more.
I probably shouldn't pick on individual words, but "wrapper" I think has negative connotations.

A wrapper might be an AAX plugin that hosts VST plugins. There's a lot of code rivers to cross there and presumably some overhead added in the process.

VMR (and McDSP and Sound Toys strips) are more like frameworks. The "frame" takes care of all of the connection to the host stuff and the individual processor then does the rest. There's no doubling up or wasted cycles.

The ONLY issue I've ever had with VMR is that my controller can't talk to it - which is kind of fine because it would be a cluster f*** if it did!
Old 3 weeks ago
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I want VMR to go single already. It’s 2018 man. I’m so over this rack stuff. I need individual units.
Old 3 weeks ago
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I probably shouldn't pick on individual words, but "wrapper" I think has negative connotations.

A wrapper might be an AAX plugin that hosts VST plugins. There's a lot of code rivers to cross there and presumably some overhead added in the process.

VMR (and McDSP and Sound Toys strips) are more like frameworks. The "frame" takes care of all of the connection to the host stuff and the individual processor then does the rest. There's no doubling up or wasted cycles.

The ONLY issue I've ever had with VMR is that my controller can't talk to it - which is kind of fine because it would be a cluster f*** if it did!
Are you using VST or AAX? VST does not work since Slate Digital ignore the VST programmers guide. Are there similar issues with AAX format too?
Old 3 weeks ago
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Hi Bace, there are absolutely no issues with our plug-ins and VST. If you have issues contact Support and we will help you.

Cheers,
Steven
Old 3 weeks ago
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I have a question on the Compression Amount feature, which is is not present in the Audified standalone version. What is it doing? The VMR manual says this: "The Comp. Amount allows you to adjust the compression effect while benefiting the module’s saturation and color. Thereby, this is not a dry/wet parameter.
" That's a bit cryptic. Is it a threshold control? A character knob?

Also, is the CPU hit difference the omission of oversampling/anti-aliasing only, or are other simplifications part of the VMR version?

Last edited by Yammer; 3 weeks ago at 03:51 AM.. Reason: Added a second question
Old 3 weeks ago
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Hi Bace, there are absolutely no issues with our plug-ins and VST. If you have issues contact Support and we will help you.

Cheers,
Steven
I have of course been in contact wth your support.

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Originally Posted by Support @ Slate from 7 aug 2015
We investigated this issue and it's actually normal that the AI-knob doesn't work with our plugins (with the plugin's GUI) cause it is not implemented at the moment.

This feature is essentially in VST3.

We're currently refactoring our VST3 wrapper so we'll be able to add this feature.
This will be a future update (no scheduled dates at this time since the VST3 wrapper refactoring requires a lot of work).

Please let me know if you have anymore questions.
Regards,

Paul Hessing
Slate Digital | Steven Slate Drums | Slate Media Technology
Technical Support Specialist
and from the SDK manual about findParameter in VSTGui.
Quote:
Originally Posted by VSTSDK programmers guide
It is highly recommended to implement this interface. A host can implement important functionality when a plug-in supports this interface.

For example, all Steinberg hosts require this interface in order to support the "AI Knob".
So I disagree, absolutely issues with VST, on a very fundamental level that is.
Old 2 weeks ago
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Working on a new song and the U73b compressor is incredible! I didn't really like it on vocals that much because I have a sound that I like already but for "other things" it is by far the best comp I have ever heard!!!! Ill post up the song when its done.
Old 2 weeks ago
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Working on a new song and the U73b compressor is incredible! I didn't really like it on vocals that much because I have a sound that I like already but for "other things" it is by far the best comp I have ever heard!!!! Ill post up the song when its done.
So glad you are loving it.


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Hungry I tell you. Not earth shattering, but far more than ANY other slate VMR plug (or really any combination)

Any host, windows 10 here.
It's a bit more heat than some of the other modules, but hopefully you find the hit worth it!

Cheers,
Steven
Old 1 week ago
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Is buying slate plugins over?
Old 1 week ago
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Is buying slate plugins over?
I assume Audified U73b is only available here: Audified | u73b Compressor (but outside of VMR)
Old 1 week ago
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I assume Audified U73b is only available here: Audified | u73b Compressor (but outside of VMR)
Yea it's been at least two weeks and still no buy option on the Slate site but subscribers can use it.
Old 1 week ago
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Yep, just like drummers in the studio.
Apparently your studio must be in your bedroom, ask your mom if she could take you to a professional studio..
Old 1 week ago
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Apparently your studio must be in your bedroom, ask your mom if she could take you to a professional studio..
This coming from a guy who's avatar has a tape deck with two reels running in opposite directions.....
Old 1 week ago
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Did I already mention this? Sorry if so.

A perpetual license is likely to cost at least 150 bones. So, if you are buying perpetual licenses, that can add up to a grand or more easily.

I paid 1fiddy for my year license. So for at least 5 years, I'm under the perpetual license by a bit, if not a lot.

Who knows what is going to be the bee's knee's in 5 years? And the sub gives you everything, not just what you paid for.

Please don't get mad, it's just how I saw the maths. Made more sense to me.
I'm one of the many that already owns all Slates plugins so I would be paying sub for one plugin It would make sense if I was a few plugins behind and I wasn't worried about being made unemployed.
Old 1 week ago
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I'm one of the many that already owns all Slates plugins so I would be paying sub for one plugin It would make sense if I was a few plugins behind and I wasn't worried about being made unemployed.
My question for you (and someone in your shoes), is how will you proceed from hence forth?

You clearly like our plugins (thank you!), so if we come out with another ten this year at average price $150, that's $1500 if you want them, or even $750 if you like half of them.... versus $180 (or less on sale) to use the same plugins via Everything Bundle.

Cheers,
Steven
Old 1 week ago
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My question for you (and someone in your shoes), is how will you proceed from hence forth?

You clearly like our plugins (thank you!), so if we come out with another ten this year at average price $150, that's $1500 if you want them, or even $750 if you like half of them.... versus $180 (or less on sale) to use the same plugins via Everything Bundle.

Cheers,
Steven
I recently decided to sell off my perpetual licenses and go with the Everything Bundle. (Even after hating the idea of it for a long time, but I pocketed a good amount of money and they all sold the same day).
I also own VMS One and I’m pretty happy with my decision, however I can’t update to anything past 1.7 because it freezes Pro Tools on Windows. Patiently waiting for the fix, but I have to say the bundle is well worth it now.
Old 1 week ago
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My question for you (and someone in your shoes), is how will you proceed from hence forth?

You clearly like our plugins (thank you!), so if we come out with another ten this year at average price $150, that's $1500 if you want them, or even $750 if you like half of them.... versus $180 (or less on sale) to use the same plugins via Everything Bundle.

Cheers,
Steven
Steven,

I love your products! I too, had most of your plugs perpetual before subscription was an option. For my situation I still prefer perpetual licenses... For now.

To answer your question:

The day you put out 10 amazing plugins in a year I'll reevaluate my position. I doubt I'll be doing that anytime soon. I also don't know if it would be good for me to have THAT many choices on a mix

Also, committing to the monthly expenditure is a different strategy. If I need to trim expenditures and drop subscription... at any time... all of my plugins go away. With my perpetual licenses, I have what I have, regardless. So if the belt tightening has to start, I don't have sessions with plugs I can't open.

But, Everything Bundle is awesome and I do consider it now and again.

Please don't ever go subscription only! I'd have to go elsewhere with my business.
Old 1 week ago
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My question for you (and someone in your shoes), is how will you proceed from hence forth?

You clearly like our plugins (thank you!), so if we come out with another ten this year at average price $150, that's $1500 if you want them, or even $750 if you like half of them.... versus $180 (or less on sale) to use the same plugins via Everything Bundle.

Cheers,
Steven
I've only seen 3 per year at most and the rest 3rd party that I wasn't interested in. I could go unemployed at any time I don't want to loose a load of plugins at the same time. It sounds like you have gone subscription only so I'm going on a Slate diet.
Old 1 week ago
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Hi Joe, in the last two years we've released:

1. U73b Compressor
2. FG-Stress Compressor
3. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console NY
4. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console London
5. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console Hollywood
6. Verbsuite Classics
7. Eiosis e2 De-Esser
8. Repeater Analog Delay Unit
9. FG-116 Blue Vintage
10. FG-116 Blue Modern
11. Air and Earth Modules
12. Two Reverb Expansions for Verbsuite
13. S-Gear Guitar Amp Plugin

For the record, to purchase any of the above plugins or plugin bundles would be equivalent to about a year of the Everything Bundle, which is why I insist that people go that route if they are looking for a far more economical way to use our software.

In 2018, we'll have about two dozen new plugins added to the bundle including some major requests.

As for subscription only, it's not the case. You can purchase any plugin that is included in our Everything Bundle outright, including the U73b at Audified | Audio research and solutions

Cheers,
Steven
Old 1 week ago
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I have a question on the Compression Amount feature, which is is not present in the Audified standalone version. What is it doing? The VMR manual says this: "The Comp. Amount allows you to adjust the compression effect while benefiting the module’s saturation and color. Thereby, this is not a dry/wet parameter.
" That's a bit cryptic. Is it a threshold control? A character knob?

Also, is the CPU hit difference the omission of oversampling/anti-aliasing only, or are other simplifications part of the VMR version?
I don't think this bit is in the manual and I'm not sure what the technical term is, but, I consider the Comp Amount section as "Smack Your Momma"

Beastly
Old 1 week ago
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Apparently your studio must be in your bedroom, ask your mom if she could take you to a professional studio..
Old 1 week ago
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I'm on Netflix and that's it - no subscriptions for me - when adobe stops working - I'll move to affinity photo or pixelmator pro

I don't want subscriptions I would rather buy and pay for updates... personal preference
Old 1 week ago
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Are there plans to release the full EQ section of Eiosis Air EQ in VMR?
Old 1 week ago
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When will the plugins be separated from the rack? Omg I’ve been asking this for years. Can we please have a answer in 2018 instead of runarounds ?
Old 1 week ago
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Hi Joe, in the last two years we've released:

1. U73b Compressor
2. FG-Stress Compressor
3. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console NY
4. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console London
5. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console Hollywood
6. Verbsuite Classics
7. Eiosis e2 De-Esser
8. Repeater Analog Delay Unit
9. FG-116 Blue Vintage
10. FG-116 Blue Modern
11. Air and Earth Modules
12. Two Reverb Expansions for Verbsuite
13. S-Gear Guitar Amp Plugin



Cheers,
Steven
Out of 13 you listed 6 are not your plugins. They are 3rd party already available plugins or exclusive bundles from 3rd parties. So in two years you released 7 plugins not 13. Even 7 is big score if you ask me but let's be honest and not overblow things out of proportions.

The guy referred and liked your plugins not 3rd party.
Old 1 week ago
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If one were inclined to listen to the end user comments. #3 , #4 , #5 may have really been 1 plugin with 3 settings.

Either way, it appears something in Slate Digital releases definitely slowed around the release of the FG-116 Blue, rise of the 3rd party, everything bundle. But, I'm sure that's just crazy ranting.
Old 1 week ago
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I'm on Netflix and that's it - no subscriptions for me - when adobe stops working - I'll move to affinity photo or pixelmator pro

I don't want subscriptions I would rather buy and pay for updates... personal preference
No problem, we still have em for sale and we are just as happy when you buy em individually!

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Are there plans to release the full EQ section of Eiosis Air EQ in VMR?
Not currently, but that could change of course.

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When will the plugins be separated from the rack? Omg I’ve been asking this for years. Can we please have a answer in 2018 instead of runarounds ?
Hi Patrick, I've never given anyone the runaround on this question. It has always been the same answer, and that is, we are not opposed to plugins being separated from the rack, but it is second priority to finishing up some new products that have been in development for quite some time. So I can't give a release date for something that isn't happening yet. I wish I could snap my fingers and have it be so, but unfortunately it's not a reality.


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Out of 13 you listed 6 are not your plugins. They are 3rd party already available plugins or exclusive bundles from 3rd parties. So in two years you released 7 plugins not 13. Even 7 is big score if you ask me but let's be honest and not overblow things out of proportions.

The guy referred and liked your plugins not 3rd party.
That's not correct. Our team worked with D16 on Repeater and while the branding says D16 and they did an incredible job, much of the core analog replication is from us.

Eiosis code team is the same team as Slate Digital, so the same resources that go into Slate Digital went into e2 De-Esser and to Air and Earth.

Verbsuite Classics is a Slate Digital plugin in Slate Digital architecture and framework, where we partnered and licensed a specific (and quite incredible) technology called Fusion Capturing from Liquid Sonics... but the plugin was done by us.

We did both of the expansions for Verbsuite Classics too.

For U73b, to get the plugin code into our framework, it was done by our team with our resources... including the GUI. This is not trivial stuff.

So.... the ONLY plugin that we didn't do at all was S-GEAR.

A LOT of work goes into these products folks, so forgive me if I take a hard stance on this matter. We worked our asses off and released a ton of plugins in the past two years. I'm really proud of my team.


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may have really been 1 plugin with 3 settings.

Either way, it appears something in Slate Digital releases definitely slowed around the release of the FG-116 Blue, rise of the 3rd party, everything bundle. But, I'm sure that's just crazy ranting.
When Universal Audio releases individual preamp emulations separately, do you call them the same plugin with just varied settings? Of course not.

The same is true with Virtual Tube Collection. Each preamp/console is VERY unique, and each took months of study and coding. The way the tube stages work in each are very different, and that's why they sound so different. The fact that we bundle them together and not release them each for $149 (something that our competitors HAVE DONE), is because we try to give the most value to our customers.

As for rise of 3rd Party... according to the reviews of our 3rd Party plugins that we've added like the U73b... I think that's a GREAT RISE!

Thanks,
Steven

Last edited by Steven Slate; 1 week ago at 01:20 AM..
Old 1 week ago
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Hi Joe, in the last two years we've released:

1. U73b Compressor
2. FG-Stress Compressor
3. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console NY
4. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console London
5. Virtual Tube Preamp/Console Hollywood
6. Verbsuite Classics
7. Eiosis e2 De-Esser
8. Repeater Analog Delay Unit
9. FG-116 Blue Vintage
10. FG-116 Blue Modern
11. Air and Earth Modules
12. Two Reverb Expansions for Verbsuite
13. S-Gear Guitar Amp Plugin

For the record, to purchase any of the above plugins or plugin bundles would be equivalent to about a year of the Everything Bundle, which is why I insist that people go that route if they are looking for a far more economical way to use our software.

In 2018, we'll have about two dozen new plugins added to the bundle including some major requests.

As for subscription only, it's not the case. You can purchase any plugin that is included in our Everything Bundle outright, including the U73b at Audified | Audio research and solutions

Cheers,
Steven
Thanks Steve I thought the U73b was a VMR plugin I didn't release it was a third party, Looks like that's how they wanted the deal set up, I'll probably demo it.
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guys - defending steven - think about what he has brought to the music scene to change the literal sound of music - he does the best job he can do and even posts on these boards to try and help you too...
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