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Sound Quality/realism considerations for new recorder.
Old 30th October 2018
  #1
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Sound Quality/realism considerations for new recorder.

Hi all,

I'm looking to start recording binaural for art/personal motivation/general love of immersive sound reasons. So I'm thinking about mixers + recorders and recorder/mixers and their impact on sound for realism, detail and all those things that draw you in.

I currently have a Korg MR1000 that I would use in DSD mode that I would front with a mixer due to it not supposedly having that great pre-amps.

But then I'm looking at the option of a mixer/recorder and more specifically at secondhand Aeta 4Minx due to the great reputation of it's preamps. However it's only 96khz max and DSP mixing/limiters etc.

If I were to move to a higher quality analogue but lower spec digital machine am I going to miss the slightly fresher and impactful sound of DSD (my opinion of DSD... other's may vary) or would I gain more through the better analogue stages? Or should I keep the MR1000 as recorder (I'll be keeping it anyway) and look toward high quality analogue mixers? (I do have a Fostex FM3 which I'll use to start with).

This is all the problem of thinking about things rather than being able to audition easily... perhaps I should rent things for a day.

Any personal experience about moving between/upgrading equipment used in immersive audio recording is greatly welcome.
Old 9th November 2018
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Originally Posted by nat8808 View Post
Hi all,

I'm looking to start recording binaural for art/personal motivation/general love of immersive sound reasons. So I'm thinking about mixers + recorders and recorder/mixers and their impact on sound for realism, detail and all those things that draw you in.

I currently have a Korg MR1000 that I would use in DSD mode that I would front with a mixer due to it not supposedly having that great pre-amps.

But then I'm looking at the option of a mixer/recorder and more specifically at secondhand Aeta 4Minx due to the great reputation of it's preamps. However it's only 96khz max and DSP mixing/limiters etc.

If I were to move to a higher quality analogue but lower spec digital machine am I going to miss the slightly fresher and impactful sound of DSD (my opinion of DSD... other's may vary) or would I gain more through the better analogue stages? Or should I keep the MR1000 as recorder (I'll be keeping it anyway) and look toward high quality analogue mixers? (I do have a Fostex FM3 which I'll use to start with).

This is all the problem of thinking about things rather than being able to audition easily... perhaps I should rent things for a day.

Any personal experience about moving between/upgrading equipment used in immersive audio recording is greatly welcome.
what microphones do you plan on using? always think about who will be using your product and what they will be listening on.
Old 10th November 2018
  #3
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I would likely be using some DPA 4060s in a dummy head (someone on a facebook group is developing one that looks and sounds good), although I had the idea of suplementing that with a larger diaphram'd mic to mix in lower frequencies for a fuller range. The latter idea I couldn't do with the MR1000 (two channel).

I guess, if I'm thinking about the audio and who will actually listen to it, absolute quality won't be the factor that will be thought about, more the content.. i.e it will be end listeners rather than used for commercial projects and getting it to end listeners will very likely be compressed audio on Soundcloud or physical installations. Unless things were to lead towards commercialism organically... ? I would love to venture into sound design for film / immersive theatre for example (but I'm 41, so doubt that would happen quick enough!)

Which perhaps leads to a conlusion that for binaural/immersive sound without a client's requirements, technique and content may be much more important and considerations for equipment should more be about flexibility for future recording situations/possibilities and experimentation than the usual habit of worrying about potential sound quality and gear choices! So hard to kick that gear-head attitude to equipment and be practical ..
Old 10th November 2018
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Before I get into binaural with a dummy head, I do alread have some ex-theatre DPA 4061s and Nakamichi CM300s - my current arsenal - for experimentation, playing with.
Old 11th November 2018
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Korg DSD recorders (MR-1000) are sonically among the best converters you can buy. Possible downsides are quirky DSD workflow, 2 channel limitation, no digital in/out, and somewhat weak mic preamps. The mic preamps are not all that bad, they are in the ballpark of utility clean generic preamps. If you care about your sound invest in good external preamps and feed the line outs to MR-1000.

You will get the sound quality/realism that is hard to beat at any price point
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