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Violet v. BLUE the solution.....
Old 16th June 2005
  #91
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Originally Posted by dave-G
Sneaking in again, eh?

Well.. hmm..

I read your statement (in the about us section at the link above)...

While I don't have any clue as to who's right and who's wrong in this dispute with Blue, I can offer this non-legal advice:

Start operating under a different name with a different badge-style immediately. ... before you actually sell anything... Now.

The very concept of the name "Violet" seems like you added red (anger) to "Blue" to make it .. Hell, merely by being a color, it's such a strong reference to Blue's corporate identity -- whether you had anything to do with forming that identity or not -- that you really should just distance yourself from it and use a new, completely unrelated trade-name.

"JZM" for JZ Microphones? ... "Microphone Research, Inc"... "Transducer Industries".... whatever. ...

What's in a name? I dunno, but it sure seems like it's SOMETHING this time..

Good luck.

-dave
Old 16th June 2005
  #92
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I find it obsurd that people only jump to the "illegal copy" conclusion straight off the bat.

Last time i looked nearly every mic out there looked the same... yet as soon as a company pops up with a microphone look similar to another companies different designs they are shot down for "illegalling copying" that microphone.

How many mics out there employ the same cylindrical tube design with that damn mesh protecting the capsule. I'm glad there are more funky designs popping up like Violets. Violet even have different designs from blue... Since when did blue make small diaphram mics like the finger? and monitors?

I found these comments rather interesting/amusing.

"Neumann made mics for Telefunken before going their own way. Sennheiser now owns the Neumann name, but the *real* Neumann mics are the Microtech-Gefell units.

Funny how if you tease your hair on end people say you look like robert smith, whereas if you have the same hair cut as a million other f*cks in your city no-one thinks you've copied anyone.. human psyche weird thing.. "


Best of luck to them i say...


"the black knight" is the most fitting and appropriate name ever possible for that mic... lol! thats great
Old 16th June 2005
  #93
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FWIW, I think the mics on the Violet site look really interesting! I hope it all works out, but there clearly IS a dispute. I just think they're making things more difficult for themselves by calling the company "violet", and using a nearly identical badging style.

-dg
Old 16th June 2005
  #94
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Hey JZ,

I registered for the site and looked at the online store.

What i'm wondering is, what are the differences between the capsules? There are a lot of different choices there.

For example, teh Globe comes with either the VD67 or VD47. Are those modelled after U67s and U47s or something else?

Also, just so you know, VD in America means "venereal disease" (aka a sexually transmitted disease). It doesn't bother me, but it will allow some 'haters' to make cheap shot jokes at your expense in the future (like people do know with 'telejunken' and their apex mic debacle).

Alright, well, i care more about how they sound so please post when you read this about the different capsules

Since I think you originally made capsules for Blue, are these equivelent to any of the capsules they sold at their old vintage store?

Thanks!
Old 16th June 2005
  #95
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Hello Violet and Mr. JZ----

Your US store is not offering the same models as your Latvian website. It seems that the full range is not offered here. For example, where is the Dolly mic?

As far as the outrageous pricing on your tube mics (EAR capsule and regular capsule) is concerned--your prices are outrageous and way too high. I would rather buy a Russian RTT mic.

I was interested to buy a EAR tube mic but not for $ 6000.00. We do not know your mic so we cannot pay this amount for a new unknown product. We require an excellent tube mic for around $1600.00

I suggest to really grab the attention of mic experts that you make a tube mic that is more affordable with real tube and real transformer.

I am very disappointed and will, for now, be giving my biz to the Russians.
(Lomo 19A19 remake and giant U47 remake absolutely cannot be beat---even by you!)

Best from Chicago,
Plush
Old 16th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave-G
FWIW, I think the mics on the Violet site look really interesting! I hope it all works out, but there clearly IS a dispute. I just think they're making things more difficult for themselves by calling the company "violet", and using a nearly identical badging style.

-dg

oh no! this thread has acutally been very civilised compared to some...

I can certianly see there similarities though, but there is always more beneath the surface.
Old 16th June 2005
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It's good to see that your company is back on track, JZ!

Jakob E.
Old 16th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave-G

The very concept of the name "Violet" seems like you added red (anger) to "Blue" to make it .. Hell, merely by being a color, it's such a strong reference to Blue's corporate identity -- whether you had anything to do with forming that identity or not -- that you really should just distance yourself from it and use a new, completely unrelated trade-name.

Violet is actually jz's wife.fyi.


Old 16th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plush
Hello Violet and Mr. JZ----

Your US store is not offering the same models as your Latvian website. It seems that the full range is not offered here. For example, where is the Dolly mic?

As far as the outrageous pricing on your tube mics (EAR capsule and regular capsule) is concerned--your prices are outrageous and way too high. I would rather buy a Russian RTT mic.

I was interested to buy a EAR tube mic but not for $ 6000.00. We do not know your mic so we cannot pay this amount for a new unknown product. We require an excellent tube mic for around $1600.00

I suggest to really grab the attention of mic experts that you make a tube mic that is more affordable with real tube and real transformer.

I am very disappointed and will, for now, be giving my biz to the Russians.
(Lomo 19A19 remake and giant U47 remake absolutely cannot be beat---even by you!)

Best from Chicago,
Plush

from what i understand the ear capsule itself costs 1000+ euro(?) to make,
not sure but maybe jz can chime in
Old 16th June 2005
  #100
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Hey Plush....whos making the Lomo 19a19 remakes? Do you have a link to them?

-bee
Old 16th June 2005
  #101
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They are for real...I just read a review in one of those UK-based music mags the other day while I was sitting having some Stabucks in the bookstore (MTM, I think?), and they had a review of the Amethyst. Pretty favorable review, actually.
Old 16th June 2005
  #102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doublehelix
" Pretty favorable review, actually.
What does that mean, ever read a bad review in a major publishing? I havnt...
Old 16th June 2005
  #103
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.gefell
from what i understand the ear capsule itself costs 1000+ euro(?) to make,
not sure but maybe jz can chime in
I don't buy that at all!
Machining irregularly shaped metal products is standard stuff. Cutting mylar film to the same shape---ditto.

I DO buy the notion that there may be a difficult time tensioning the film on an irregularly shaped capsule. Perhaps there is a high reject rate. 1000Euro??--hardly!

I AM indeed seeking pro engineers who know these mics. Is that you?
If so, please comment on the sound world imparted by the Violet mics.

I had high hopes untiil I saw that some pirates got ahold of these goods in the United States.
Old 16th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plush
I don't buy that at all!
Machining irregularly shaped metal products is standard stuff. Cutting mylar film to the same shape---ditto.

I DO buy the notion that there may be a difficult time tensioning the film on an irregularly shaped capsule. Perhaps there is a high reject rate. 1000Euro??--hardly!

I AM indeed seeking pro engineers who know these mics. Is that you?
If so, please comment on the sound world imparted by the Violet mics.

I had high hopes untiil I saw that some pirates got ahold of these goods in the United States.
well..let's see what jz's got to say.As far as trying the mics our rep. hasn't got any mics in yet.
Old 16th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bee
Hey Plush....whos making the Lomo 19a19 remakes? Do you have a link to them?

-bee
The name of the Russian company is RTT.
Please contact
http://www.sound-room.com
for information.
Old 16th June 2005
  #106
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http://www.sarkapro.com/mikrofonit.html

These are the goods!

These incrdible tube mics range in price from US$900-1600.

What about THAT, Mr. Fung!
Old 16th June 2005
  #107
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I fondled most of the range but didn't get a chance to plug one in.... maybe next week.

They were well constructed and packaged. Beyond that, it's all guess work. I was asked to place an order but I'll think I'll wait and see what happens but if I do get to have a play next week, I'll let you know
Old 16th June 2005
  #108
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Hey Plush ....thanks for posting the link to those lomo reissues. I had know idea they where being made again. I'm excited!

-bee
Old 17th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad
What does that mean, ever read a bad review in a major publishing? I havnt...
Good point!

But you can usually "read between the lines" if the reviewer wasn't thrilled.
Old 21st June 2005
  #110
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XHipHop
Hey JZ,

I registered for the site and looked at the online store.

What i'm wondering is, what are the differences between the capsules? There are a lot of different choices there.

For example, teh Globe comes with either the VD67 or VD47. Are those modelled after U67s and U47s or something else?

Also, just so you know, VD in America means "venereal disease" (aka a sexually transmitted disease). It doesn't bother me, but it will allow some 'haters' to make cheap shot jokes at your expense in the future (like people do know with 'telejunken' and their apex mic debacle).

Alright, well, i care more about how they sound so please post when you read this about the different capsules

Since I think you originally made capsules for Blue, are these equivelent to any of the capsules they sold at their old vintage store?

Thanks!

Jokes about capsules ar ok
But capsules are the same, except some new.
There are some tone "std's", coming from famous vintage mics - "47", "67", "12", etc., it is simpler to describe capsule tones this way.
Old 23rd June 2005
  #111
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Violet mics

heres some mics you guys can drool over--i believe this guy made most of the BLUE mics
http://www.violet-design.com
PS, These are short descriptions of Violet and JZ microphones

VIOLET:


Flamingo ME large ear capsule tube preamp large output
transformer smart psu - vocals - very warm, sweet, full
low frequencies

Flamingo STD VD67 capsule (a'la Neumann U67) tube preamp
large output transformer smart psu - universal/vocals -
warm, wide spectrum

Flamingo VINTAGE VD47 capsule (a'la Neumann U47) tube preamp
large output transformer smart psu - vocals - warm,
sweet

Globe STD VD67 capsule (a'la Neumann U67) super quality
discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless -
universal/vocals - warm, wide spectrum

Globe VINTAGE VD47 capsule (a'la Neumann U47) super quality
discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless - vocals -
warm, sweet

Amethyst STD VD26 capsule (original JZ, no analogs, sounds like AKG
C12) discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless -
universal/instruments - bright, very wide spectrum

Amethyst VINTAGE VD67 capsule (a'la Neumann U67) discrete
semiconductor preamp transformerless - universal/vocals -
warm, wide spectrum

Dolly STD (white) VD27 capsule (no center screw, rather linear)
discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless - universal -
wide spectrum

Dolly SE (violet) VD27 capsule (no center screw, rather linear)
discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless - universal -
wide spectrum

Black Dolly (black) VD27 capsule (no center screw, rather linear, -2
dB low frequency) discrete semiconductor preamp
ransformerless - universal - wide spectrum

Pearl STD maza kapsula discrete semiconductor preamp
transformerless - stage vocals/universal, like other stage
condensers

Pearl VINTAGE VD47 capsule (a'la Neumann U47) discrete
semiconductor preamp transformerless - vocals -
warm, sweet

Finger maza kapsula discrete semiconductor
preamp transformerless - stage and studio -
instruments

Black Knight VD27 capsule (no center screw, rather linear)
discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless -
universal - wide spectrum

Junior VD26 capsule (original JZ, no analogs, sounds like AKG C12)
discrete semiconductor preamp output transformer -
universal - bright, very wide spectrum

THE MONITOR 8 - very masssive separated birch enclosure
2.5 cm thick (front 7.5 cm thick !!!) Dynaudio special 8" LF
woofer ; 1.1" HF tweeter separated custom crossover ready for biamp /
direct biamp shockmounted enclosure rounded front of
enclosure large gold plated connectors near field / mid
field monitor

- STD - internally acoustically damped

- VINTAGE - internally not damped



JZ:

JZ-1 VD26 capsule (original JZ, no analogs, sounds like AKG C12)
discrete semiconductor preamp output transformer -
universal - bright, very wide spectrum

JZ-2 VD26 capsule (original JZ, no analogs, sounds like AKG C12)
discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless -
universal - bright, very wide spectrum

JZ-3 changeable VD47 / VD67 / VD26 capsules very quality
discrete semiconductor preamp transformerless -
universal

JZ-4 VD26 capsule (original JZ, no analogs, sounds like AKG C12)
very quality discrete semiconductor preamp
transformerless - universal - bright, very wide spectrum

JZ-5 VD47 capsule (a'la Neumann U47) tube preamp output
transformer smart psu - vocals - warm, sweet

JZ-6 VD27 capsule (no center screw, rather linear) discrete
semiconductor preamp transformerless - universal - wide
spectrum


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralfs Niedra [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:09 AM

mikey
Old 1st July 2005
  #112
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Yeah, I'm going to order The Globe with the 47 capsule to record bass guitar cabs with. I was going to get a Mouse but that thing looks way burlier. Plus the new Blue's which I can get one directly from Blue aren't the same as the ones that I know that kill on bass amps since Blue has changed their manufacturing.
Old 1st July 2005
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planning on getting the grand pearl thingie......
Old 2nd July 2005
  #114
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where can I find prices? I'm surfing on their web site for ages now ...
Old 2nd July 2005
  #115
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i'll post my comparisons between the blue mouse the the violet globe standard as soon as i test the mic sometime next week.

Justin
Old 2nd July 2005
  #116
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If you're in Europe, go to:
http://www.GoldenAgeMusic.se

Bo sells them.
Old 2nd July 2005
  #117
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSweetener
If you're in Europe, go to:
http://www.GoldenAgeMusic.se

Bo sells them.

thumbsup
Old 2nd July 2005
  #118
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Well, they look nice, but did you see the insane prices?
The Flamingo is EUR 5,283, that's $6,500!!
Old 2nd July 2005
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Yeah, well that mic is a Blue Bottle ($4500) on steroids. Improved capsule and electronics, and an improved power supply.
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