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New recording/mastering Email scam
Old 2nd August 2017
  #31
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So, I guess add "Ramon Byron" to the list of scammer names, lol.
Yeah, that's the name on the last one I got too.

ps. To the admin that moved my post to this thread, thank you. I have a nack for no-hit searches and figured I was alone in all this. Lots of good info here.
Old 4th August 2017
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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe View Post
I got this in my Email

Hello How are you doing ,My Name is Doris,I am hearing impaired that is the reason why i contact you through via email,i would like to know if you are available for a master recording session service,
Dear Doris.

I am quite happy to provide master recording services to the hearing impaired.

Indeed, the hearing impaired seem to make up the bulk of the clientele, and I am very fond of them. People with normal hearing seem to hold my work in much less esteem.
Old 7th August 2017
  #33
New one: I told her to go bother someone else. Sounds like a scam to me. YUCK!

Yes and how much is the total? will you email me your name and address along with direct mobile so can mail your check asap


On Monday, August 7, 2017 9:56 AM, Thomas Bethel wrote:

And the project is????

-TOM-

Genre and intended distribution? CD, WWW, Digital files?

Thanks!

-TOM-

On 8/7/17 9:29 AM, Julia Walker wrote:

> California
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> On Monday, August 7, 2017 8:35 AM, Thomas Bethel wrote:
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> What is the project and where are you located?

> Thanks!

> -TOM-
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> On 8/7/17 5:01 AM, Julia Walker wrote:

>> Will bank check work for you?
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>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 8:41 AM, Thomas Bethel wrote:
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>> It's is $45.00 an hour. Minimum of one half hour.

>> -TOM-
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>> On 8/6/17 8:08 AM, Julia Walker wrote:

>>> how much is this proffesional audio mastering?
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>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:55 AM, Thomas Bethel wrote:
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>>> Sorry, is what still available? We do audio mastering and yes it is always available. Not sure I understand your question.
>>>
>>> -TOM-
>>>
>>> On 8/6/17 6:33 AM, Julia Walker wrote:

>>>> Still available?
Old 8th January 2018
  #34
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I run a charity that just got this as well

Here it is we should find out who he/she is and deal with it. I don't understand how anyone can be OK running these scams on anyone and now they are going after a charity with a small studio. When i got the email i found it a little fishy and found this web site where you have all been affected. WE fight for funding to assist at risk youth get to know the joy of music and then you get scammers like this. i just don't understand.

PattyO

From: Byron <[email protected]>
Subject: Recording Studio Needed

Message Body:
Hi,I would like to know if you do music recording and how much you charge per hour for your sessions.I have three artists that will be needing your service.Also,do you accept credit cards as a form of payment??
Old 8th January 2018
  #35
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If anyone wants to have a howl over email scammers, look up James Veitch on YouTube. Really funny stuff!

Bobby
Old 8th January 2018
  #36
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Originally Posted by Synth Guru View Post
I keep getting spammed by Viagra/Cialis emails.
Does anyone remember back in the day when emails selling "penis enlargement pills" were all the rage?

Bobby
Old 8th January 2018
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Does anyone remember back in the day when emails selling "penis enlargement pills" were all the rage?

Bobby
Those damn things don't work.


So I've been told
Old 19th January 2018
  #38
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I guess this is alive and well. I received this today:

"Hello,I would like to know if you do music recording and how much you charge per hour for your sessions. I have three artists that will be needing your service. Also , do you accept credit cards as a form of payment??"

Seemed like it deserved a response, so a few hours later I sent my rates and indicated I accept paypal for CC. Minutes later, I got this response which sent me looking into whether this was a scam:

"Thanks for your swift response. I am hearing impaired and am scheduled for surgery soon. I would like us to communicate via email or you can send your cell phone number and we can communicate via sms. I am booking this sessions on behalf of my artists. I am an agent and I have three artists that do country music.I would like you to make vocal recording for three singers. Each singer will do two songs including mixing for a maximum of six hours. The singers have a private driver that will bring them on their sessions dates. I would like you to get back to me with suitable sessions dates (preferably 6,7,and 8 of july) and also the total cost for your service.I will like to use your engineer and I need you to add his charges for the three days. I am responsible for the payment . Let me know the types of credit cards that you accept. I will be waiting to read from you as soon as possible."

So, I guess add "Ramon Byron" to the list of scammer names, lol.
I just got pretty much the same emails, almost word for word. What I don’t understand, is what’s the scam? Are artists actually going to show up and record and then we somehow don’t get paid? Seems unlikely that any artists would be associated with a scammer. I just can’t figure out what they’re trying to steal if it’s not studio time. Maybe they’re trying to get in the door and steal gear?
Old 19th January 2018
  #39
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I just got pretty much the same emails, almost word for word. What I don’t understand, is what’s the scam? Are artists actually going to show up and record and then we somehow don’t get paid? Seems unlikely that any artists would be associated with a scammer. I just can’t figure out what they’re trying to steal if it’s not studio time. Maybe they’re trying to get in the door and steal gear?
At some point they will ask you to accept a big PayPal/Credit card payment and then ask you to give part of the money to the artists and the driver for their "travel" or "living" expenses and of course the PayPal/Credit card money will not really be there so you will be stuck for the balance. They do it with credit cards and with checks that look and seem legit. Best to stay away from these scammers they know a lot more about wire transfers, off shore banking and ways to make money appear and disappear quickly. FWIW
Old 24th January 2018
  #40
Got an Email from someone saying they were close by to my studio inquiring about doing some recording. I told him that the only recording we do is voice over or remote recording and that if he wanted a studio that did music recording we were not the right place. I heard nothing from him for a couple of weeks and then another Email very similar to the first but from a different Email address again asking about recording in our studio. I replied with the same message as I sent the first Emailer and nothing. Then last week yet another Email with the same message as the other two but from yet another Email address. I replied with the same message I sent the other two. Then I get back a message that he wants to come over and look at the studio to see if it is suitable for recording his band. I send a Email saying we are NOT a recording studio and he should look elsewhere. He replies he still wants to come over and talk. At this point my BS antenna is going off full time and I tell him that since we are not going to be working together I don't really see the point in the meeting. He asks for my address. I ask for what reason and that my physical address is posted all over the net. I have not heard from him for over a week and I am not sure what this is all about. Something sounds very fishy and I am not sure what he is trying to do. Suggestions welcome...
Old 24th January 2018
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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe View Post
At some point they will ask you to accept a big PayPal/Credit card payment and then ask you to give part of the money to the artists and the driver for their "travel" or "living" expenses and of course the PayPal/Credit card money will not really be there so you will be stuck for the balance. They do it with credit cards and with checks that look and seem legit. Best to stay away from these scammers they know a lot more about wire transfers, off shore banking and ways to make money appear and disappear quickly. FWIW
If I could give one good piece of legal advice on this subject, it would be this:

Just because a check or other payment "clears" does not mean that the check is GOOD.

All of these scams operate on a public belief that once a bank has credited a check to you account, the check is good, and you get to keep the money. If the check is fraudulent, you don't .

They usually feature some sort of over-payment for you services with a request that you give part of the payment to a third part for "expenses" "shipping" etc. By example, they buy $2,000 worth of goods or services in advance . They offer to send a check for $3,000, with the proviso that you pay the other $1,000 to a third party for some expense or another. They are always very straight abut it - "don't pay anything until the check has cleared you account" and there is always some plausible reason why they can't pay the third party direct.

As soon as the check "clears " they will start calling asking why you still have their extra $1,000 in your account, and hinting that they are worried that YOU are acting in bad faith. You go ahead and wire the $1,000, or pay it in cash to someone. You never hear from them again.

Two months later, you get a notification from the bank that the check is stolen/forged. The bank withdraws the $3,000 from you account, and you start getting calls from the police in another state asking how you came to be depositing a stolen check in your account.

You are now down $1,000, and the subject of a fraud investigation.
Old 25th January 2018
  #42
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If I could give one good piece of legal advice on this subject, it would be this:

Just because a check or other payment "clears" does not mean that the check is GOOD.

All of these scams operate on a public belief that once a bank has credited a check to you account, the check is good, and you get to keep the money. If the check is fraudulent, you don't .

They usually feature some sort of over-payment for you services with a request that you give part of the payment to a third part for "expenses" "shipping" etc. By example, they buy $2,000 worth of goods or services in advance . They offer to send a check for $3,000, with the proviso that you pay the other $1,000 to a third party for some expense or another. They are always very straight abut it - "don't pay anything until the check has cleared you account" and there is always some plausible reason why they can't pay the third party direct.

As soon as the check "clears " they will start calling asking why you still have their extra $1,000 in your account, and hinting that they are worried that YOU are acting in bad faith. You go ahead and wire the $1,000, or pay it in cash to someone. You never hear from them again.

Two months later, you get a notification from the bank that the check is stolen/forged. The bank withdraws the $3,000 from you account, and you start getting calls from the police in another state asking how you came to be depositing a stolen check in your account.

You are now down $1,000, and the subject of a fraud investigation.
One of the best descriptions of what these "scammers" are doing. Thanks! This should be a sticky!
Old 25th January 2018
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Thanks for getting back to me, am scheduling this appointment on behalf of my children as a surprise package for them.They all want to record their songs because it is what they like doing, they are based on Hip-hop, Rap music and jazz music, they are actually unprofessional musicians, never played in a recording studio before the kids are home schooled and they will be available on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturday, however i want you to recommend them with extremely good and enjoyable studio sessions. Please get back to me with total estimate for 3 times in a week recording session, just 4 hours of studio recording session per day and for 5 weeks,I have 3 kids, that is 4 hours per day 3 times in a week for 5 weeks and the starting date is 18th of next month... 1(Female) 2(male),And also want you to know that they will be coming along with their private van driver and i'll appreciate if you can secure this appointment for them for me, waiting to read back from you soon.

Best Regards
Bentsen.
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OK Bentsen, of course fractional renumeration per offspring will be enacted! 15% surcharge per month of each child for each inch of height less then or equal to 1 meter. Rounding up. The dates are not a problem, as long as mornings are ok. I prefer to work from 6 am to 8am, and then again later on from 11pm to 1am, that's on days starting with a "t". Days starting with an "s" or "m", we don't need to worry about the fractional renumeration. Thanks, I'll watch for a deposit in the mail.
Old 25th January 2018
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Funny how a scam always smells exactly like a scam.
Yep.
Old 26th January 2018
  #45
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Got an Email from someone saying they were close by to my studio inquiring about doing some recording. I told him that the only recording we do is voice over or remote recording and that if he wanted a studio that did music recording we were not the right place. I heard nothing from him for a couple of weeks and then another Email very similar to the first but from a different Email address again asking about recording in our studio. I replied with the same message as I sent the first Emailer and nothing. Then last week yet another Email with the same message as the other two but from yet another Email address. I replied with the same message I sent the other two. Then I get back a message that he wants to come over and look at the studio to see if it is suitable for recording his band. I send a Email saying we are NOT a recording studio and he should look elsewhere. He replies he still wants to come over and talk. At this point my BS antenna is going off full time and I tell him that since we are not going to be working together I don't really see the point in the meeting. He asks for my address. I ask for what reason and that my physical address is posted all over the net. I have not heard from him for over a week and I am not sure what this is all about. Something sounds very fishy and I am not sure what he is trying to do. Suggestions welcome...
Give him your "Wrigley Field" address?
Old 13th February 2018
  #46
New scam

Hello,

I hope this e-mail finds you well! This is D------ M------,I am a private sponsor, I have three artists all college students that i am willing to help develop their music and they will be needing your service. I want to book a recording session on their behalf to produce a demo song, How much do you charge per hour and also per day? and do you accept credit card as a payment method?,i will also need the below information from you:

Your Name.....
Your Studio Address.....

Regards,
D------.


Of course it came from a completely different email address G------ L------ [email protected]>. And why, if he is writing me to provide services, doesn't he know my name and my studio address.

FWIW

ADDED 2-15-18: Two more Emails from this person both with different Email return addresses. Must be desperate?

Last edited by Thomas W. Bethe; 15th February 2018 at 02:15 PM.. Reason: Added an thought
Old 14th February 2018
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Two months later, you get a notification from the bank that the check is stolen/forged. The bank withdraws the $3,000 from you account, and you start getting calls from the police in another state asking how you came to be depositing a stolen check in your account.
It takes a bank two months to know that a check is stolen/forged ?
Old 14th February 2018
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It takes a bank two months to know that a check is stolen/forged ?
Or longer....

I had a friend who did some work for a foreign company he thought was legit. 6 months after being paid for his work he received a notice from his bank that the check had bounced. Luckily it was not a lot of money but...he had to make pay the bank back for the money that was no longer there. When he went to the bank he was told that this was not the first time this had happened and that depending on the country clearing checks can take a while.

Not fun!
Old 14th February 2018
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It takes a bank two months to know that a check is stolen/forged ?
Yep - while the normal process of clearing a cheque for payment takes hardly any time at all (even though banks make you wait two or three days or whatever) that doesn’t actually guarantee that the cheque is completely legit and can’t be reclaimed further down the line. When that happens, your bank will have to return funds to the issuing bank and you’ll have to cover it back to your bank. The overpayment scam has been relying on this particular trick for a long time.

Actually, most forms of payment through a bank can be reclaimed later (and potentially a lot later) in the event of fraud or other criminality coming to light.
Old 15th February 2018
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It takes a bank two months to know that a check is stolen/forged ?
Yes. I did a case a number of years ago with a stolen payroll check and that time period. The reason is that because of what is known as "electronic clearing" checks "clear" long before the issuing bank, let alone the owner of the account, has ever seen the actual check .

[1] someone steals a company check.

[2] they forge an endorsement, (usually by a stamp if its a company check) and give it to you.

[3] You deposit it in your bank. That evening, the check details go electronically to what is known as a clearing institution. The clearing institution checks electronically with the bank on which the check is drawn to see if there are sufficient funds in the account. If so , the check "clears" and money appears in your account. There may be no actual transfer of funds at all: If Bank A takes in $100,000 in checks written on bank B in a day, and Bank B takes in $100,005 in checks written on bank A in the same day, Bank A simply transfers $5 to bank B

[4] The physical check is then returned (slowly) to the issuing bank and scanned ( or physically returned to the account holder at the end of the month)..

[5] When the business does a routine accounting audit, it finds a check payment that is unaccounted for. If the thief was clever, or has some inside information, the check often bears a notation of of a genuine company project number or purchase order number. Before it can do anything else, the business launches a routine investigation to make sure this is not a paperwork error or other internal mistake. It does not do to cancel a legit check to a possible customer until you are sure.

[6] The investigation concludes that there had not been some sort of mistake, and a large business then often starts the equivalent of an internal security investigation trying to find the culprit. At this point they inform the bank that the check was unauthorized. The bank then begins its own investigation to verify this.

[7] Eventually the business files a criminal report. As the stolen check was deposited in YOUR account, you are currently the prime suspect.

This process can, and often does take two months.
Old 19th February 2018
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It's Scam Time Again

Got the initial inquiry email and I have seen this one before.

*******

On Feb 15, 2018, at 2:44 AM, david mccarthy wrote:

Hello,

I hope this e-mail finds you well! This is David Mccarthy ,I am a private sponsor, I have three artists all college students that i am willing to help develop their music and they will be needing your service. I want to book a recording session on their behalf to produce a demo song, How much do you charge per hour and also per day? and do you accept credit card as a payment method?,i will also need the below information from you:

Your Name.....
Your Studio Address.....

Regards,
David.

*********

never mind I'm a mastering facility.
they don't care, they are looking for a mark.
So I sent them this for a reply :
**********
Book rate is $500/hr.

12 hour block Rate is $5000.00

50% non-refundable deposit due at the time of the booking without prior established credit or major label purchase order.

Thank you for your interest.

*******

And right on schedule today got this reply :

*******

I appreciate your response,. I have not been feeling well so i am trying to take things slowly.. I am a private sponsor, I have three artists all college students that i am willing to help develop their music and they will be needing your service. I want to book a recording session on their behalf to produce a demo song. They are all doing country music...Can you do this for them ?,Get back to me with total estimate for 3 times in a week recording session, just 4 hours of studio recording session per day and for 4 weeks, that is 4 hours per day 3 times in a week for 4 weeks and the starting date is 15th of next month.... 1(Female) 2(male), And also want you to know that they will be coming along with their private van driver and i'll appreciate if you can secure this appointment for them for me,

Kindly get back to me with:
(1) the cost
(2) your cell phone number
(3) And will like to know if you are the owner of the company ?

Thank you

*********

If I remember correctly, someone shows up with the driver but something is wrong and they don't have money to pay the driver and you get asked to take care of it. WHAM!

In the spirit of jerking this doofus around, I just asked where they go to college. We'll see what happens, but be advised, this scam is making the rounds again.

Are we having fun yet ?
Old 20th February 2018
  #52
John,

Check out my #46 post ^^^ same guy only from three different email addresses. I guess it is making the rounds.

And check out (3) And will like to know if you are the owner of the company ? Maybe he needs to go to "college"
Old 16th March 2018
  #53
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Getting a variation on this now via text messages, guy claims to be military and wants to send his kids to the studio. 80% of the copy is the same.
Old 14th August 2019
  #54
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It's always great when you have a software, that can organize all your emails in order you'd like.

The last time, when I had to transfer all my work emails from Gmail to Outlook, it took two weeks for doing it manually.
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