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What is the amount of space needed between floating walls for proper iso?
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I believe Soundman2020 posted the equations in the topic New construction 2-ch listening room build questions. Look for where he writes, "Here's the full set of equations for roughly estimating the isolation in each of the three frequency ranges."
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You bratme to it Starlight. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Mind-Over-Midi View Post
Please post the equations! It would be most appreciated! Thanks!
Sure! No problem. It's actually a set of equations that you need for estimating overall isolation of a two-leaf wall in the various regions of the spectrum. All of the equations are fairly simple:

First, for a single-leaf barrier you need the Mass Law equation:

TL = 14.5 log (M * 0.205) + 23 dB

Where: M = Surface density in kg/m2

For the complete two-leaf wall, you need to calculate the above for EACH leaf separately (call the results "R1" and "R2").

Then you need to know the resonant frequency of the system, using the MSM resonance equation:

f0 = C [ (m1 + m2) / (m1 x m2 x d)]^0.5

Where:
C=constant (60 if the cavity is empty, 43 if you fill it with suitable insulation)
m1=mass of first leaf (kg/m^2 or lbs/ft2)
m2 mass of second leaf (kg/m^2 or lbs/ft2)
d=depth of cavity (m or ft)

(NOTE: C=60 for imperial empty cavity, 2650 metric empty cavity, 43 for imperial full, 1900 for metric full)

Then you use the following three equations to determine the isolation that your wall will provide for each of the three frequency ranges:

R = 20log(f * (m1 + m2) ) - 47 ...[for the region where f < f0]
R = (R1 + R2)/2 + 20log(f * d) - 29 ...[for the region where f0 < f < f1]
R = R1 + R2 + 6 ...[for the region where f > f1]

Where:
m1 and m2 are still the surface densities of leaf 1 and leaf 2, respectively
f0 is the resonant frequency from the MSM resonant equation,
f1 is 55/d Hz
R1 and R2 are the transmission loss numbers you calculated first, using the mass law equation for each leaf

And that's it! Nothing complex. High school math. It's just simple addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, square roots, and logarithms.

For a three-leaf wall (such as when you have an extra layer of drywall, MLV, or anything else in the middle of the wall), its rather more complex, but the outcome is always, without exception, that the isolation for such a 3-leaf wall will be worse than for the equivalent 2-leaf wall, all other factors being equal, and regardless of the materials used. The issue is the mass of each leaf, and the size of the air gaps. There will be variations, of course, from some materials, but the OVERALL result is that the total isolation will be worse in low frequencies, probably better in the mid range, and about the same or maybe better in high frequencies.

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I believe Soundman2020 posted the equations in the topic New construction 2-ch listening room build questions. Look for where he writes, "Here's the full set of equations for roughly estimating the isolation in each of the three frequency ranges."
And both you and Andre beat me to it! I didn't check for new posts before I posted mine, above ... Sorry about that!

Oh well, I guess it does no harm to post twice...

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Soundman2020, Starlight, and avare thanks for posting! The space that I’m renting has some “challenges” that I have to overcome, this is useful information!
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