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Anyone tried Vicoustic online acoustic treatment help?
Old 20th April 2017
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Anyone tried Vicoustic online acoustic treatment help?

Hey all,

Need some acoustic advice for my weirdly shaped room and thought of trying that 50eur help from them to know what to buy.

I need my room to be percise for mixing, mastering, music production etc...

Anyone tried that service?
Is it right to get advice from anyone online?
People I talked to here in my country regarding acoustics usually wanted to come to the room and do measurements and I presume there's so much accuracy you can get from sketches and maybe photos.

Thanks !
Old 20th April 2017
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Hey all,

People I talked to here in my country regarding acoustics usually wanted to come to the room and do measurements.

Thanks !
Hello,

People are right. Do not wast your money.
Old 20th April 2017
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Not so sure you need to pay a company to give you help when you are buying their products. You may want to ask them if you get that money back as a credit when buying there products. We also give online acoustical help with our customers but do not charge for it.
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Old 20th April 2017
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Dear all

I don't like to be formal on these forums, because there is a lot of self-made "Professors" around here.

I just have a few points about this post:

1) Do you know the difference between an acoustical advice and an acoustical project?
2) Do you know how a Vicoustic project proposal looks like?
3) Do you know how much time does it take to do a complex project?
4) Do you know the reimbursement conditions?
5) Do you know how much does it cost a 3D project (interiors project, kitchen project, etc) around there?

All these above questions are rhetorical.

Dear Amir

Please send me your personal email and I'll send you an example of a Vicoustic project proposal, the before & after, RT analysis, etc etc

Cheers
Old 20th April 2017
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Dear all

I don't like to be formal on these forums, because there is a lot of self-made "Professors" around here.

I just have a few points about this post:

1) Do you know the difference between an acoustical advice and an acoustical project?
2) Do you know how a Vicoustic project proposal looks like?
3) Do you know how much time does it take to do a complex project?
4) Do you know the reimbursement conditions?
5) Do you know how much does it cost a 3D project (interiors project, kitchen project, etc) around there?

All these above questions are rhetorical.

Dear Amir

Please send me your personal email and I'll send you an example of a Vicoustic project proposal, the before & after, RT analysis, etc etc

Cheers
Hello;

I know the quality of vicoustic products. I did the error to buy some them.

For all the questions, yes i know after having thrown into the trash many commercial products with extraordinary performances on the paper.

If there is no sound insulation, it is not very complicated from the moment you acquire the bases and the good products.

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Old 21st April 2017
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Sorry about your experience Self-Made Professor.
NASA, NATO, Microsoft, Facebook and so many more didn't have. I'm quite sure you're better than them.
Old 21st April 2017
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Sorry about your experience Self-Made Professor.
NASA, NATO, Microsoft, Facebook and so many more didn't have. I'm quite sure you're better than them.
Make things complicated is good for trade.

The major issue with an acoustic treatement is the decoration.

make beautiful is not always easy especially Vicoustic (my personnal experience)
Old 21st April 2017
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Free

I would suggest there is a difference between free and paid advice.
But this sounds like an odd offer. €50 is very little. A fairly typical consultation here, albeit with handholding all the way to the finish, with DIY aspects, tends towards 10 times that. On the other hand, every consultation begins with a gratis chat or emails.
I cannot imagine any reason why Vicoustic Products would not function similarly to any other brand using normal foam or fibre. I haven't seen them in the flesh but they look pretty good in the photos IMO.

DD
Old 24th April 2017
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This is exactly why I quit posting on this forum. Been to busy but was on here tonight because I have a client selling off some gear in one of his rooms in order to have us build a better room.


The Vicoustics and GIK stuff is great but if you want a proper room then time needs to be devoted and you may have to be willing to do some construction. The way rooms are built has a lot to do with how they will behave acoustically. Adding small prefab acoustic treatments (panels you can lift by yourself) is a band-aid approach but if you do enough of it you may have great results and that is fine for a lot of people.
Old 24th April 2017
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Adding small prefab acoustic treatments (panels you can lift by yourself) is a band-aid approach but if you do enough of it you may have great results and that is fine for a lot of people.
I agree you can always build things into the room and I also respect that as a designer this may be your goal, but to use the word "band-aid" is a bit unfair. I guess if you ask Abbey Roads, Austin City Limits and other customers of ours if there rooms are just full of "band-aids" they would laugh. Once again I totally respect a full build out and have been involved in them, but you can do the same with pre-fab products if done right.
Old 25th April 2017
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I agree you can always build things into the room and I also respect that as a designer this may be your goal, but to use the word "band-aid" is a bit unfair. I guess if you ask Abbey Roads, Austin City Limits and other customers of ours if there rooms are just full of "band-aids" they would laugh. Once again I totally respect a full build out and have been involved in them, but you can do the same with pre-fab products if done right.
Well it was easier on their pockets I suppose. Times are changing. I have built prefab acoustic treatments for a few of the worlds most popular engineers, songwriters, and producers in NY, Nashville, LA, and other cities. I have also done build outs for some of them. I do prefab acoustic treatments more than I do full build outs because these are super fast and affordable. They also don't require the legal hassles of big contracts and permits. One of my clients mixed a record in a hotel room, actually a few and they have millions of views on Youtube. Talent over room but room is important. Studio rooms can be like cars. There is a big difference between a Ford Focus and a Porsche Carrera but they both will transport you. Let's just say thin prefab sound panels are kind of like stick on band-aids and the prefab corner bass traps are the more heavy duty gauze. You can definitely stop light bleeding with these but you probably can't do much for the larger wounds with these. Just my opinion.
Old 25th April 2017
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Studio rooms can be like cars. There is a big difference between a Ford Focus and a Porsche Carrera but they both will transport you. Let's just say thin prefab sound panels are kind of like stick on band-aids and the prefab corner bass traps are the more heavy duty gauze.
Speak for yourself.
Old 25th April 2017
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Apples and Oranges

In reality I think we are all on the same side here. i.e. Better sound via treating the acoustic issues. Context frequently causes fake divisions on fora such as this.
e.g. Let's take the fully Pro context. 4 Metre tall structure with even larger L and W. This is Newell's minimum size needed to accommodate enough treatment to achieve NE down to low frequencies. The treatments are very very deep. They could of course be done by stacking in prefabricated units but the cost would be vast, there would a a vast amount of unnecessary containment and cosmetic finish.
Conversely in the vast majority of spaces where music is currently created, there is not even a fraction of that space available for treatment, in which case PreFab or DIY are the options. When fire regulations, cosmetics, sourcing materials and labour are added as priorities, Pre Fab becomes a no brainer IMO.
Let's not make unnecessary and unrealistic comparisons.
DD
Old 25th April 2017
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Let's not make unnecessary and unrealistic comparisons.
Agreed! and well said
Old 26th April 2017
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Bottom line is not everyone has the opportunity to build a room from the ground up, dedicated for good sound. For those of us who work in existing rooms, prefab treatments, especially the high quality and versatile ones, allows professionals to create a very nice working environment in just about any room.
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