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What mics are these (1966)? Condenser Microphones
Old 7th June 2014
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What mics are these (1966)?

I just came across the following on youtube:

Klaus Doldinger 1966 NDR (G) Albert + Emil Mangelsdorf, Volker Kriegel - Bluesy Sound - YouTube

The interesting part starts after the introduction. This is German (NDR = "Nord Deutsche Rundfunken" if I am not mistaken), 1966. The stands that look vaguely like streetlights are the mics, I assume? Out of sheer curiosity, anyone know what they are?

(And yes, that is a bass saxophone).

Regards, Christine
Old 8th June 2014
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I just came across the following on youtube:

Klaus Doldinger 1966 NDR (G) Albert + Emil Mangelsdorf, Volker Kriegel - Bluesy Sound - YouTube

The interesting part starts after the introduction. This is German (NDR = "Nord Deutsche Rundfunken" if I am not mistaken), 1966. The stands that look vaguely like streetlights are the mics, I assume? Out of sheer curiosity, anyone know what they are?

(And yes, that is a bass saxophone).

Regards, Christine
Man that is a pretty swingin' band. I had no idea they were playing like that in Germany in 1966. "Deustcher Jazz" is alright on that track.

I was going to say KM84 but doubled checked and they don't show up before the '70s.

Those mics look like they could be a KM56s on a custom stand for TV. The KM56 was 3 pattern and you can see that on placements they seem to using it OMNI.

my 2 cents. (Canadian, which is only about 1.8 USD anyway)

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Old 8th June 2014
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I think you've got it! Thanks. Curiosity satisfied

So these are tube mics (didn't FET start appearing around that time?) with Tuchel connectors coming off the power supply. Were those connectors reasonably standard at the time?

Regards, Christine
Old 12th June 2014
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Fets were the first transistor but they were not commercialized until much later. I think the late 60s is when I remember seeing them in the trade publication.

Not sure about the Tuchels

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Old 13th June 2014
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Fets were the first transistor but they were not commercialized until much later. I think the late 60s is when I remember seeing them in the trade publication.
I thought it was the other way round - transistors came before FETs.

That's why Sennheisr developed the RF condenser (that used transistors and not FETs) and why several other microphone companies (including Schoeps) also started developing RF condenser mics.

It was only when FETs came along very quickly afterwards that all except Sennheiser stopped development of RF condensers and just used their old valve (vacuum tube in American "English") designs, replacing the valve with an FET.
Old 14th June 2014
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By first I mean at Bell labs. The first transistor made was a fet. They were not commercially practical and so bipolar transistors came to market first.
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