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Cheap (but good sounding) way to sum 2 mic signals to 1 channel during tracking?
Old 26th September 2006
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Cheap (but good sounding) way to sum 2 mic signals to 1 channel during tracking?

I'm about to get me one a dem der Germ. Tonecontrols and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about how to mic up a guitar cab with 2 mics and send both of their preamp outs to a single EQ/comp. Is there a way to do this for under $300 with no loss in signal quality? I have no console, (this would be easy if I did ) and this will be my only outboard EQ (so far) in my current setup.
Is there some kind of simple box I could buy that would do this? Or maybe even something I could build?

Thanks guys!!
Old 26th September 2006
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looking forward to this as well....
Old 26th September 2006
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Old 26th September 2006
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That's what I need, does someone make maybe a cheaper 1 channel version?
Otherwise that looks nice...
Old 26th September 2006
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Wow what a coincidence ! I've been thinking about this for some upcoming Guitar tracking sessions. I was thinking about rigging up a DIY version. Anyone with anymore thoughts.

Jam
Old 26th September 2006
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yea. i've been looking for something like this too! i hope someone has an answer!
Old 26th September 2006
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You can use a resistive summer. Or a mic splitter in reverse.

Here's another couple ideas.

http://www.procosound.com/downloads/mc2.pdf
http://www.activemusician.com/item--EM.RLL-MS20B




-tINY

Old 26th September 2006
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The Symetrix SX202 has a summed third output.

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Old 26th September 2006
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That looks perfect!
Does anyone have any experience with the Rolls?

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You can use a resistive summer. Or a mic splitter in reverse.

Here's another couple ideas.

http://www.procosound.com/downloads/mc2.pdf
http://www.activemusician.com/item--EM.RLL-MS20B




-tINY

Old 26th September 2006
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And what makes the Brent Averill box so much more than the Rolls box besides the extra channels?
Should I be worrying about what that line splitter will do to my signal??
Old 28th September 2006
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does anyone have any experience with these cheaper alternatives?
Old 28th September 2006
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And what makes the Brent Averill box so much more than the Rolls box besides the extra channels?
Should I be worrying about what that line splitter will do to my signal??


Well, lets see: It says "Brent Averill" on it.....



-tINY

Old 28th September 2006
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I'm about to get me one a dem der Germ. Tonecontrols and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about how to mic up a guitar cab with 2 mics and send both of their preamp outs to a single EQ/comp. !

I am a bit confused about why you want to put the same EQ curve on both mics. It is just for the sonic signature imparted by the unit, or are you really meaning to boost and cut both mics at the same frequencies?
Old 28th September 2006
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You can use a resistive summer. Or a mic splitter in reverse.

Here's another couple ideas.

http://www.procosound.com/downloads/mc2.pdf
http://www.activemusician.com/item--EM.RLL-MS20B




-tINY

The ProCo is fine.. used one for this same deal a couple weeks agothumbsup
Old 28th September 2006
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Well, lets see: It says "Brent Averill" on it.....



-tINY
If it's got an XFMR in it, that'll drive up the cost.
Old 29th September 2006
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I'm about to get me one a dem der Germ. Tonecontrols and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about how to mic up a guitar cab with 2 mics and send both of their preamp outs to a single EQ/comp. Is there a way to do this for under $300 with no loss in signal quality? I have no console, (this would be easy if I did ) and this will be my only outboard EQ (so far) in my current setup.
Is there some kind of simple box I could buy that would do this? Or maybe even something I could build?

Thanks guys!!
Maybe you should ty to get a good sound of the cab with just one mic?

One well-positioned mic on a good-sounding cab thru a good preamp and nice EQ should be more than enough for a juicy sound.

Anyway, you can build your own passive mixer wit a handful of resistors and the proper connectors for I/O, this will cost just a few bucks.

So, look at the attached file for a simple and cheap balanced 2-in/1-out summer; the rectangles with "10Kohms" in them are resistors, use 1/4 watt; the input and output rectangles refer to the pins of XLR connectors.
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Old 29th September 2006
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Tried the Rolls yesterday. Inexpensive and works.

/Matt
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