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Source for unmastered mixes?
Old 6th September 2013
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Source for unmastered mixes?

Is there a place where I can hear some commercially successful mixes in their unmastered state?
Old 6th September 2013
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I am especially interested in modern "loudness wars" mixes that were squashed hard in mastering, or in stuff like Bruce Swedien's mixing where he avoids compression in mixing but there would have been compression added when mastering to vinyl...
Old 7th September 2013
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Is there a place where I can hear some commercially successful mixes in their unmastered state?
I highly doubt there is such a place. Most professionals wouldn't want people to have access to their unpolished work. Just like professional photographers rarely show their raw, uneditted, un-color corrected photos. Same with movie makers (besides brief clips from behind-the-scenes interviews.)

I'm not sure if you're more interested in the final pre-master mix of a track or the effect of a professional mastering job. If its the former, I'd check out reading some posts here by Dave Pensado, and following his youtube series for a lot of good tips.

If its the later, I'd say just finish a track and have it mastered by a professional (well, at least industry standard hardware gear, assuming that's what you're interested in). Then you'll have your before and after. It wouldn't been a terribly expensive experiment.

Hope that helps a little.
Old 7th September 2013
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Most of the top notch mix engineers, if you simply turn down the mastered version, you have the unmastered version (minus a few lopped off peaks that likely have no seriously perceivable impact on the sound of the record). Honestly, the top mix engineers, the mastering guys do very little or nothing other than a limiter or clipping their converters (either method a matter of personal taste) to get more voluime.
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