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Getting that smooth distorted guitar sound
Old 31st July 2013
Lives for gear
Originally Posted by henge View Post
Not a Korg pedal but the Korg A3. I did a bunch of stuff with and for Stan and he got amazing sounds out of the A3.
He's actually the reason I got obsessed by recording!LOL

Aw yes, that's right. He did say that. I just consider all that " non amp " stuff to be a pedal essentially but I get your point. There is a distinction,
Old 31st July 2013
Gear Head

Originally Posted by u b k View Post
OP, if you've got the same set of multi's and others are getting the sound, it's probably much, much simpler than anything you've got in mind.

In all likelihood it's your balances, and in particular the relationship of the bass to the guitars. In my experience, if you can get the bass and guitars to merge seamlessly and become one column of sound from the floor to head height (save the ceiling for cymbals and maybe snare snap and vocal air), you're guitars will sound smooth as butter because they'll have warmth, weight, and definition all the way down, without the mud that usually results from trying to get the guitars to sound that way on their own.

Faders are everything in this game.

Also, try eq'ing and mixing at 40dB. Get a dB meter app for your phone, have the full mix going, and have it peak at 40dB. Listen to some ref tracks at that volume too to get a feel for how things are supposed to poke thru at that barely-audible volume. It's a threshold-of-hearing exercise, and will teach you a lot about what freqs and instruments are actually at the front of the mix.

Lastly, consider the notion that 'chasing tones' is a rabbit hole with little payoff imho; a smooth guitar sound is useless in a boring/flat/lifeless mix. The secret to truly great mixes is not good sounds, it's compelling movement, energy, and dynamics. That's a holistic perspective, not an individualized focus. Ironically, the more interesting and compelling a mix tends to be from a movement and (un)balance perspective, the more the individual sounds tend to be perceived as 'better', because the overall context is so much satisfying emotionally.

This is, first and foremost, a mindgame; I respectfully submit that you may be focusing on the wrong part of the chess board.

Gregory Scott - ubk

Great perspective! I'll give your suggestions a try
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