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Best Vocal Mic Under $700
Old 20th September 2012
  #31
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I have only owned one ldc (rode k2) and have used numerous dynamics

I loved what the k 2 brought to my studio, but i thought it was a little edgy at times. I bought a NOS Telefunkin tube and upgraded, and that made a significant impact. The k2 is good on my vocals (baritone), was really sweet on a female alto rock singer i know and i have had great results in front of my acoustic Guitars (guild and martin) and really did a nice job in front of a fender amp played clead with that great tremelo sound. Sounded like you were standing in front of the amp

Its a pretty good mic for the $ imo but change the tube
Old 21st September 2012
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Old 21st September 2012
  #33
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Do you mean for voiceover? I have not personally used the CM6, and from the clips I've heard, I think it sounds a little bright for my tastes, but the CM5 is almost ideal for my singing IME, which is probably different from voiceover. I've never really heard of people doing voiceover with a C12, for instance.
kidyvibes just "leaked" the fact that there will be a new CM7 coming out soon... search the forum for it. If you consider the CM6 too bright, the CM7 supposedly sits in between the CM5 and CM6.

Personally, I found that the harshness of the CM6 melted away when I switched from my stock ProFire 2626 preamps to the Focusrite ISA-One, now it sounds much smoother with lots of nice air. So I'm happy with it... and for $700 you can get a CM-6 and an ISA-One. My next purchase isn't a new mic, but a new tube for the CM-6. I've never thought of it as sounding "tubby" -- it has rich lows, accurate mids, clear-but-not-harsh highs, and nice air. If you like a "dull" high end, this is not your mic. But if you like a modern sound, maybe worth trying.

Stellar CM-6 used exclusively on this track: Small | Lights Fade Low (female vox)
And this one:
Control | Lights Fade Low
And in conjunction with an SM7 on this track:
Hurricane | Lights Fade Low

Sadly, on all of these tracks it was used with the ProFire 2626 preamps, though. But I still am pretty happy with how the vocals sit in the mix.
Old 21st September 2012
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That's cool. The CM5 is plenty bright for me, so I think I'll probably pass on this new thang Peter's got going (though i will definitely be watching for clips). I wish he would do something with a k47-type capsule. There's a thread around where somebody had an ADK custom shop k47 installed in their cm6 and it had a really interesting tone to it.
Old 21st September 2012
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Regarding what others have said about gain, you might have to turn up the gain all the way on your pre with the SM7B. And I wouldn´t be surprised if there are pres out there that won´t even have enough gain for whispering vocals with that mic. With an external pre in addition, that potential problem would be solved.

The SM7B is a great mic, but it´s a little on the rough side soundwise. If you want something with detail and shimmer, it might not be the right choice. A condenser would be better then.
Old 21st September 2012
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I'm pleased as punch with my TLM 102. Great on vocals, good on just about anything else.
Old 21st September 2012
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Love the Stellar CM6. Mostly on male vocals.
Old 21st September 2012
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I own a K2, but I choose the M-audio sputnik more so than it. It tends to just sit in the mix better for the stuff i do.
Old 25th September 2012
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone . Now time to find somewhere around Columbia Missouri where I can test some of the mics out that you guys have listed to see which I sound best on. Might be a challenge in this area hmmmmm...
Old 25th September 2012
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I'm pleased as punch with my TLM 102. Great on vocals, good on just about anything else.
Agreed. Lovin' my TLM 102, as well.

Good luck!
Old 25th September 2012
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That's cool. The CM5 is plenty bright for me, so I think I'll probably pass on this new thang Peter's got going (though i will definitely be watching for clips). I wish he would do something with a k47-type capsule. There's a thread around where somebody had an ADK custom shop k47 installed in their cm6 and it had a really interesting tone to it.
...Peter at Stellar is now offering capsule swaps (including K47-types) as well as tranny (Lundahl) upgrades on all his tube mics...I don't know if I would call the upcoming CM-7 "brighter" than the CM-5, but it has an overall different tonal balance...once I get one of the production units, I will try and post some clips...

...somebody made a comment that the CM-6 isn't good for "voice"?...well maybe "voiceover", but it rocks as a modern pop-radio vocal mic...outstanding, IMHO...hold it's own with other more costly popular vocal mics like the Manley Ref Cardioid, BeesNeez Arabella GT and the Miktek CV-4, especially when coupled to a quality preamp...the CM-6 benefits most from a tube swap, as the simple plate-follower circuit couples the pentode tube directly thru the output tranny, so the tube's character will greatly influence the mic's tonality...an NOS Mullard EF86 or NOS Valvo E80F smooth out the CM-6's top-end very nicely, while still maintaining the clarity and detail...
Old 25th September 2012
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Strongly suggest Studio Projects CS series (neutral-ish w/ on-board EQ switches) for the OP, to be in the final 4 or 5 LDC shortlist.

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Old 26th September 2012
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...Peter at Stellar is now offering capsule swaps (including K47-types) as well as tranny (Lundahl) upgrades on all his tube mics...I don't know if I would call the upcoming CM-7 "brighter" than the CM-5, but it has an overall different tonal balance...
Cool, look forward to hearing it!!
Old 26th September 2012
  #44
Among your list I own and really like the SM7 and 4047. I also have pair of 67s, an 87, 414s, and a few more. I recently purchased a Avantone CV-12 and stuck a JAN 6072a tube in it and it really just sounds amazing, clients seem to always comment how great the vocals sound. In my opinion it's a great sounding mic for the price $500. Yes it was made it China but it really does have a pro sound and it can be heard on the radio quite often.
Old 26th September 2012
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If I had $350 I'd buy an SM7b all day long. But if I had $700 I'd buy a used AKG TL II (gold faced) it's got the versatility and durability of a 414 but a bit warmer.
Old 26th September 2012
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I recently purchased a Avantone CV-12 and stuck a JAN 6072a tube in it and it really just sounds amazing, clients seem to always comment how great the vocals sound. In my opinion it's a great sounding mic for the price $500.
...the Avantone CV-12 is manufactured by the same factory that makes the Stellar and Advanced Audio mics...the CV-12 uses the same stock capsule and transformer as the cheaper Apex 460, but the Stellar and AA tube mics have upgraded capsules and transformers...excellent sounding mics!

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Yes it was made it China but it really does have a pro sound and it can be heard on the radio quite often.
...that same "China" factory supplies many of the high-end boutique mic brands (Telefunken RFT, Blackspade, Sontronics, Charter Oaks, Peluso, Mojave, etc) with capsules, even complete mics in some cases...don't underestimate their capabilities when cost factors aren't minimalized...
Old 26th September 2012
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...the Avantone CV-12 is manufactured by the same factory that makes the Stellar and Advanced Audio mics...the CV-12 uses the same stock capsule and transformer as the cheaper Apex 460, but the Stellar and AA tube mics have upgraded capsules and transformers...excellent sounding mics!



...that same "China" factory supplies many of the high-end boutique mic brands (Telefunken RFT, Blackspade, Sontronics, Charter Oaks, Peluso, Mojave, etc) with capsules, even complete mics in some cases...don't underestimate their capabilities when cost factors aren't minimalized...
I'm aware of most of these facts, doesn't change the fact that the Avantone CV-12 is a pro sounding mic.

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.don't underestimate their capabilities when cost factors aren't minimalized.....
My point of mentioning the whole China thing was to reiterate this point.
Old 26th September 2012
  #48
I really like the ATA4050. Sounds great for lots of styles of music on female and male vocals. Very easy to eq in post.
Old 26th September 2012
  #49
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I reckon you could almost get away with 700 to buy then mod an Apex 460 with an AMI T14 tranny, a decent NOS tube and a tim campbell ct12 capsule. Those mods are a little bit fiddly but don't require much specialised knowledge and that would be a niiiiice mic.
Old 26th September 2012
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Shure SM7B. I've used them with Neve 1073 channels, the Focusrite ISA pre amps, AML ez1073-500 pres, API and A Designs pres, even the GAP PRE-73 and the tracks always sound great. For the past four years I've used SM7s with the Aurora GTQ2 pre and that's my favorite combo. It's great for vocals and electric guitar but works well on drums (toms especially) and in conjunction with a condenser mic for acoustic guitar when you want a forward midrange punch.
For $700 I'd buy an SM7 and a PRE-73.
Old 26th September 2012
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I'm a huge fan of the EV 457B if you have a decent compressor.
Old 26th September 2012
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Electro Voice RE-20. Secondary choice: SM7.
Old 26th September 2012
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Electro Voice RE-20.
Such a fantastic mic; but pray tell, why not the 457B in comparison?
Old 26th September 2012
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Such a fantastic mic; but pray tell, why not the 457B in comparison?
I've never used it. To my ears, nothing at all beats the overall tone and response of the RE-20 for vocals. I'll reach for the 20 before I reach for any condenser.

I recently tried doubling a 20 with an SM7 and woo boy, thick, ballsy vox.
Old 26th September 2012
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there's a lot of mics out there, but for under 700$ (550 euro) I like the Beyer M260 ribbon and the RE-20.
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I think you could not have picked a worse number for your price point for a vocal mic.
agree
IMO, if you can, try stretching it to around 1000 bucks, some really great mics then come within reach.
Senheiser MD-441(u), Beyer M500, Gefell new and vintage, etc. etc.
Old 26th September 2012
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I've never used it. To my ears, nothing at all beats the overall tone and response of the RE-20 for vocals. I'll reach for the 20 before I reach for any condenser.

I recently tried doubling a 20 with an SM7 and woo boy, thick, ballsy vox.
I had the good grace to use the 20 and the 457B together. Here are my personal thoughts;

RE20 is a much better mic for a scooped bassy sound over a trebel-heavy voice. 457B is a NO GO over bassy vocals, but offers incredible bass and high end reception for your average vocalist.

If we're talking broadcast, definitely stick with the 20. Vocals on an album with an artist that isn't a bass-heavy vocalist, however, I find a real richness in with the 457B.

If you want to try a cheap alternative to the 457B, check out the Digital Reference DVR100. Basically the same sound, with slightly less bass reception and a little more uncontrollable dynamic wise (and by that, I mean use one hell of a compressor)
Old 26th September 2012
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I had the good grace to use the 20 and the 457B together. Here are my personal thoughts;

RE20 is a much better mic for a scooped bassy sound over a trebel-heavy voice. 457B is a NO GO over bassy vocals, but offers incredible bass and high end reception for your average vocalist.

If we're talking broadcast, definitely stick with the 20. Vocals on an album with an artist that isn't a bass-heavy vocalist, however, I find a real richness in with the 457B.
Ahhh, but what does one do in a situation where said vocalist on album needs a little extra oomph and warmth in their delivery? You reach for the 20 which is actually pretty flat, no scoop in it's response.
Old 26th September 2012
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Ahhh, but what does one do in a situation where said vocalist on album needs a little extra oomph and warmth in their delivery? You reach for the 20 which is actually pretty flat, no scoop in it's response.
In comparison to the 457 it is, but yes. Actually I'm rather drawn to how flat the 20 is.
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