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Originally Posted by kirsten
Talking about the Peppers is kind of like "The Kings New Clothes". IOW nobody really wants to admit what they really think about the band because it is kind of like herasey
I don't think there is any band that is at the level where someone might feel you can't say anything bad about them, with the possible exception of the Beatles.
I can think of at least six criticisms of the Peppers, and like you, I'm a keyboard player. The most glaring one has already been mentioned a few times in this thread -- they've kind of been recycling material for ten years.
Is innovative a requirement of good music, or music that doesn't suck?
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Do YOU want to listen to 12 tracks in a row by either one of them?
I definitely feel you on that -- by the time "Hanginaround" finally ends, I feel like I
have listened to 12 tracks in a row. But other times I dig it.
Regardless, I don't think any of those bands suck. It's a matter of taste. Or maybe just a matter of etiquette and respect.
I feel confident that had you produced the last Elvis Costello record, you would have listened to all of it 10,000 times, fallen in and out of love 200 times, but at all times convinced that it did not suck.
How do you think an artist even gets to the point where he's making his 20th record, or 5th, and trying to figure out how to do something fresh? As a rule, he doesn't get there by sucking.
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The songs all sound the same.
But that's just what everyone thinks whenever they're not into a particular style. For the thousands or millions or are into it, they're revelling in whatever mode or subgenre the artist is hitting on.
I've heard people say that about dozens of artists and entire genres -- blues and dance and country in particular. In every case, I find as a musician that if "it all sounds the same," I just haven't gone deep enough yet.
JSL