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Jules - sexpistol thingy......
Old 4th June 2002
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Jules - sexpistol thingy......


Looks like this forum will be really good I think.

Before I head into mix isolation land for awhile I was wanting to ask Jules if he wouldn't mind providing some info on the sexpistols "trick"?

Keep well,

Old 4th June 2002
Sure... this will also get a Smashing Pumpkins sound too

You need - ***1 x Stereo Compressor with an external Key input ***

(This can be software or hardware)

Set up 2 x stereo groups, feed to those groups ALL the dist guitars and bass. (but perhaps not the solo(s)

Strap a compressor across the 2nd group

(DAW folks please note - use a sample delay like Timeadjuster to make the FIRST group the same sample delay number, or just set up the same compressor but with bypass selected)

Set up a send to the key input of the compressor on the 2nd group.
Send a lot of kick drum to that group...

Pull down the 1st group, now, just listening to the 2nd group mess with the parameters of the compressor so that the gtrs are 'kicked in the throat' with each bass drum hit... (you need a very quick release time) Make it sound like the Pistols or sSmashing Pumpkins through a cheapo car stereo maxed out to within an inch of its life....

"hanga hanga hanga" - it sound's ridiculous of course....

Then pull that down and pull up the 'plain' gtr group... Now FEED IN the keyed compression group.. - Blend to taste.... I often use 50/50

Now try to pull away the compressed group


An Instant pistols / pumpkins sound!

Old 9th June 2002
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Thanks Jules. Much appreciated!okk
Old 10th June 2002
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Sounds pretty cool. Is that one of those things you find yourself doing all the time or just on certain songs? Lately I've been doing the same tricks to everything I've been doing... because it sounds boring compared to the songs with the tricks on it. I know why a lot of mixers have their own 'sound', but what to do so everything doesnt sound the same?
Old 10th June 2002
I check it out on a lot of distorted guitar / punky stuff I do... If it's not happening, I dont use it..

Old 10th June 2002
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What kind of ratios are you using on the group and how much is it pulling back on the kick hits?
Old 19th October 2004
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Old 19th October 2004
9:1 ratio is a good starting point,

As you set it up it should sound 'odd' (use heavy / threshold - is pull 20 dbs compression when first 'dialing it in')

Trick is to exagerate the sound then

a) back it off
b) blend in with an unaffected version

There is more chatter + an MP3 for reference here!

Old 19th October 2004
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Originally posted by Jules

There is more chatter + an MP3 for reference here!

I like how the word "Sex" worked it's way into the end of that link address

Old 19th October 2004
Your avatar image looks like it's having a night in watching a few videos!!!
Old 19th October 2004
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thats interesting. i actually have produced steve jones and he does have a very unique way of attacking and strumming with the pick.

Old 19th October 2004
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Did you work on F7 stuff?
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