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Tips for extreme in-your-face vocals
Old 25th May 2006
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Solution A: put the mic diaphram just above the bridge of her nose. The air will pass beneath the mic and you can get her in closer.


Solution B: Make a copy of the vocal track cut everything below 1000Hz and slam it with an LA2A plugin followed by an 1176 plugin. Mix this track in behind the original track.
Nice tips thanks. I never placed the mic that High (above nose). I though i would loose to much of the vocals body. Must try it then. Solution B is pretty much what I do. I don´t use the 2nd plugin though, just the LA2a really thight. Sometimes it gets a bit harsh and the breathing can be heard a bit too much.
Old 25th May 2006
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Has anyone got any first hand experiencce with the Reflexion screen from sE?

Does it work?

This seams very interesting indeed. Anybody try it already? Does this really work?
Old 25th May 2006
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try turning your head quickly to the right or left on plosive syllables, this has worked well for me, also their is a method of passing your hand in front of your mouth on the plosive syllables, supposedly john lennon was a master at this.
multi tasking.

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Funny, this was exacly the idea I had ( to turn head quicky). I will have another studio session today. I will ask her ( the singer, very cute by the way!) to try it out. I´m not sure if it will distract her from the singing...will see.
Thanks, really great tips so far.
Old 25th May 2006
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This seams very interesting indeed. Anybody try it already? Does this really work?
yup, had one for a few weeks now, it really does work - I bought it against my better judgement too

You can't push the mic in too far as it starts to colour too much, but for control room/project studio/bedroom recording it's got 'essential purchase' written all over it IMHO.

Good bit of hardware too, maybe a tad heavy, but not a problem.

Give it a try...
Old 25th May 2006
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Nice tips thanks. I never placed the mic that High (above nose). I though i would loose to much of the vocals body. Must try it then. Solution B is pretty much what I do. I don´t use the 2nd plugin though, just the LA2a really thight. Sometimes it gets a bit harsh and the breathing can be heard a bit too much.
You can automate those breaths out on the compressed track and it ends up in a place you may enjoy.
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You can automate those breaths out on the compressed track and it ends up in a place you may enjoy.
true, but a good vocal technique can sort that out.

I always find a good headphone mix, as close to the final effect as possible, helps when trying to achieve this effect.

As much as the obvious things like a dead environment and mic/compression choices are important, I find it's the vocalists skill in getting as close and as good a sound as possible that's the crucial factor.
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You can automate those breaths out on the compressed track and it ends up in a place you may enjoy.
Not a bad ideia but maybe a bit too time consuming..no? Also, doesn´t it sound strange or not natural? I like to record 3, 4, 5 tracks per song. Imagine that 10 times ( 10 songs). It would give me 40 / 50 tracks of auto...
I get paranoid whenever I use auto or volume lines. I´m always hearing things getting lower and higher, even when i do it right! Paranoid.
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Not a bad ideia but maybe a bit too time consuming..no? Also, doesn´t it sound strange or not natural? I like to record 3, 4, 5 tracks per song. Imagine that 10 times ( 10 songs). It would give me 40 / 50 tracks of auto...
I get paranoid whenever I use auto or volume lines. I´m always hearing things getting lower and higher, even when i do it right! Paranoid.
When its layered in with the original it sounds fine. I would however comp all your vocal tracks down a single stereo file before I applied any of this.
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