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preamps: slow vs. fast
Old 21st May 2006
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preamps: slow vs. fast

First off, I'm staying home today, so I hope no-one minds my multiple new threads.

Second, this isn't a vs. as in "which is better"


I was just sitting here reading a post and can't help but wonder, what is it in the design that makes a preamp fast or slow. I'd imagine the use of transformers plays a big role, but that can't be all their is to it.


To me:

Fast = clean, modern, in your face kinda sound
Slow = colored, vintage, rolled of hi end


Right now, I'm fortunate enough to have 14 channels of quad eight mm61 modules, which I would think (don't have much to compare them to) would be in the slower catagory, and I absolutely love the sound. I love how the transients are soft and mellow, especially when tracked to my 2" 24 track......and especially because I don't have much for compressors.
Old 22nd May 2006
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I think if it's a an op amp based design then the op amp itself has a lot to do with it....slew rate and such. Different transformer core materials probably come into play as well.

Brad
Old 22nd May 2006 | Show parent
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I curious about this question...giving her the old
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I wouldn't say coloured or vintage particularly equates to a "slow" preamp. For example an API 312. Transformers too...

I think it is more relevant to the specific design than a general rule that sums them all up...
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I don't know about saying the API is necessarily "fast". To my ears it's kind of medium and that's what makes it punchy. A Hardy is much faster than the API to my ears...both opamp designs.

Brad
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What pre-amp will turn the best time in a 1/4 Mi?
Old 22nd May 2006 | Show parent
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Consider the concept of subtractive synthesis:

You can slow down a fast preamp.

You can't speed up a slow preamp.

Waiting for the mix stage is where the operator can adjust the tracks to taste, to cut with slow or filtered preamps lessens the mixer's choices.

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Old 22nd May 2006 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher
What pre-amp will turn the best time in a 1/4 Mi?
The one strapped to the back of your Harley?

Brad
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