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Old 12th May 2006
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Spend my money - $3000 ( Just for Frontend )

I need 16 channels with phantom power on each into my Nuendo 2 DAW.

I sold my Amek Tac Scorpion and ( 3 )1010lt cards.
What would be a step up in sound for me given the $3k budget ?
I always buy used equipment.
Old 12th May 2006
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Originally Posted by maestro7879
I need 16 channels with phantom power on each into my Nuendo 2 DAW.

I sold my Amek Tac Scorpion and ( 3 )1010lt cards.
What would be a step up in sound for me given the $3k budget ?
I always buy used equipment.
You are trying to do preamps AND AD/DA converstion for $3K...and have it be a vertical move in performance...?!?

Not possible.

16 channels will be ~$4000 just for the preamps

Then you could do the Aurora for $3000.

Unless we differ on what would be a step up.

Mackie Onyx with the Firewire option?

Good luck,
David
Old 12th May 2006
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Those pieces would be a huge step up. Too huge for me.
I was thinking of getting a A&H Mixwizard with Motu or RME
I would have room for my external preamps using either the Motu or RME

Would the Mixwizard and Motu or RME be a step up ?
The MOTU and RME has to be better then the delta's.
Old 12th May 2006
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I'd get 8 great channels and 8 mediocre channels.

I assume 16 is for recoridng a band live. Use the 8 great channels for the important stuff and then lesser channels for things like tom mics or distorted room mics or one of hte 2 bass channels or whatever is less important.

Then for all of the times you're not recordin 16 channels simultaneously, you're using higher end channels than had you spread your money across 16 channels evenly.
Old 15th May 2006
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Originally Posted by maestro7879
Those pieces would be a huge step up. Too huge for me.
I was thinking of getting a A&H Mixwizard with Motu or RME
I would have room for my external preamps using either the Motu or RME

Would the Mixwizard and Motu or RME be a step up ?
The MOTU and RME has to be better then the delta's.
Well the MOTU and RME are more like a lateral move...not quite a step up.

Look here http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/compare/index.htm

I mean it is too late now as you have sold your stuff but it would appear you have made a horizontal step audio-wise...you might have a better work flow on your hands. No big deal either way, you'll be fine.

Maybe think about upgrading in steps...with your next purchase being two or four channels of better pres...then get better AD/DAs.

Good Luck,
David
Old 16th May 2006
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Well the MOTU and RME are more like a lateral move...not quite a step up.

Look here http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/compare/index.htm

I mean it is too late now as you have sold your stuff but it would appear you have made a horizontal step audio-wise...you might have a better work flow on your hands. No big deal either way, you'll be fine.

Maybe think about upgrading in steps...with your next purchase being two or four channels of better pres...then get better AD/DAs.

Good Luck,
David
MOTU and RME are more like a lateral move ? Why wouldn't everyone just buy M-Audio hardware instead of shelling out the cash for RME if it's just a lateral move ?
Are you saying there really isn't much difference between the FireFace800 and say a M-Audio Firewire 1814 ?

The pre's I would be buying would only be used when I run out of the high end pre's that I already own.
Old 16th May 2006
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oho

RME is much better than M-audio, but ONLY if you buy for example the HDSP9652, with external converters.
The FIREFACE does not have the same quality converters as the stand-alone boxes from RME.
There's lies the secret AND the price.

If you want something really decent , try METRIC HALO
this only works if you have a MAC - do you have a MAC?
Old 16th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maestro7879
Those pieces would be a huge step up. Too huge for me.
I was thinking of getting a A&H Mixwizard with Motu or RME
I would have room for my external preamps using either the Motu or RME

Would the Mixwizard and Motu or RME be a step up ?
The MOTU and RME has to be better then the delta's.
I use Mix Wizzard and MOTU 2408 MK III.
Mix Wizzard is a good sounding board, but no Phantom on each channel.
Theres a series a step up my friend has that has phantom on each channel, Phase reversal, and EQ "IN" switch.
Can't remember the model, but it was under 3 K.
I would still recomend a nice pre for vocals.
If you have some nice outboard pres, the Mix Wizzard is a great all arounder.
You may also want to wait a bit and see what comes out this summer, like the Toft, Trident?
Old 16th May 2006
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Originally Posted by MDM
oho

RME is much better than M-audio, but ONLY if you buy for example the HDSP9652, with external converters.
The FIREFACE does not have the same quality converters as the stand-alone boxes from RME.
There's lies the secret AND the price.

If you want something really decent , try METRIC HALO
this only works if you have a MAC - do you have a MAC?
All PC here.
Old 22nd May 2006
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Just an update on what I ended up getting...

FireFace 800
Digimax 96k
Rolls Hex Phantom Power Supply - This will supply my external preamps with phantom power.

I have 18 phantom powered preamps at my disposal. 7 Different flavors.

Step up ? Well, I think so.
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