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Blue Baby Bottle users........
Old 4th September 2002
  #1
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Blue Baby Bottle users........

So....

Where does it excel?

I got a deal I could not refuse on a Baby Bottle and just received it this afternoon. I plan to give it the full run around this week but I was curious as to what others have gotten out of this interesting looking little guy.

I'm definitely putting in front of the kick drum! I like to keep the front head on and go for that big open sound. I'm not a big fan of the D112 for the type of kick I like....maybe this'll be the guy!

Tried Vocals, guitar, overhead, anything? Let me know! This is my coolest purchase since the NTK and I have a pair of Beyer M160s on the way that will be here any day now! Sweeeet!

I may not be a high priced slut but a slut just the same
Old 4th September 2002
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Mine has been doing great on vocals, acoustic guitar and in front of guitar amps. I tried it a couple of feet in front of my kick, but it just didn't grab the lows I was hoping for - I've had better luck with an AT4033 there. I'll try it closer the next time I mic up my kit.
Old 4th September 2002
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I like mine a lot and I want to get another one soon. It's been living in front of electric guitar amps while cutting basics. Couple that with a rich sounding preamp like a Telefunken or API. Yum! Anyway, it also works well as a room mic on drums, sometimes acoustic guitar and vocals. The top has a roll off that seems to start around 9khz or so it's not what I'd reach for if you want an open sound on vocals. Definatly not for overheads unless I'm going to digital. I've tried it outside kick a few times and while it's OK I'm just not impressed. The lows don't go low enough for my taste. You might actually find that you use the M160's and Baby Bottle on the same sources. I can swap it with my M260DX on most things and be OK.
Old 13th September 2002
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I don't have big collection of mics, so I can only say my voice sounds great thru my Baby Bottle. I have not used it for anything else yet. It just sounds pleasing, yet transparent.

I have recorded vocals in "more pro" studios than mine, several tiimes and never liked the results.

I think this is an excellent mic!!!
Old 23rd September 2002
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considering that, in this day and age, STILL, a 57 and a good mic pre is pretty hard to beat for mic'ing an amp, the baby bottle is a very potent choice for that application. and the fact that it also does it at a competitive price point (not so much that it costs, in reality, 5x as much as a 57, but the fact that the gap between said 57 and what you'd spend for a "real" quality mic, using fmr's "best sounding stereo compressor for under $2000 as an analogy), make it almost a must for a mic collection with budget restraints. it definitely qualifies as a 2nd "flavour" for electric guitar. i've only had the opportunity to use it with a trident signature1 so far, which is a semi-transparent pre, and it has all been VERY usable. especially for a slightly driven "jimi" through a neck pickup blues sound.. it's a bit tubier sounding than a 57. due to the fact that it has a quite tight proximity response that borders on hyper-cardioid, and a pronounced warmth, or bump, in the mids, it wouldn't really qualify as a choice for vocals, though having said that, it is an interesting choice for hip hop vocals. i''ll be very interested to give it a try on violin in the next week or two; i'll post an update when i do. now that i have my speck m-72 console up & running, i'll also be giving it a go, with guitar again, through the console's mic pre's, which have jensen mic input trannies. as the mic is so warm sounding, i'll be curious to see how it sounds through a "coloured" pre.. something tells me, from advance reports, that the baby bottle'd probably sound killer through the new "rnp"! how 'bout it, jay? ya got the "babe;" got an rnp on the way?


ml
Old 23rd September 2002
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I actually think the pattern on the Baby Bottle is pretty wide. Not what I would call a hyper-cardiod mic at all. It's got a bit of a peak around 3-4khz and the top seems to start rolling off around 10khz or so which makes it sound very forward and smooth.

Nope, no RNP's on the way. I also don't own an RNC.
Old 24th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jay Kahrs


Nope, no RNP's on the way. I also don't own an RNC. [/B]
And you call yourself a gear slut!tut
Old 25th September 2002
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But I am!!! I might not have an RNC but I have two UA 1176's and a Summit DCL-200. I could've bought 30 or 40 RNC's instead. :eek:

I might be getting a pair soon. There's an engineer who keeps saying he wants to book time here and I offered to give him some time for them. If he ever books I'll take 'em. Otherwise I'm pretty solid on compression and I just don't really need one or a pair. I'd rather fill out the mic collection.
Old 25th September 2002
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so, jay, what mics are you considering adding? i just had a look at your mic list on your website, and i'm curious what you think should be next.
Old 26th September 2002
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I've already added another Blue Baby Bottle. I also want to get another TLM 103 so I have a pair for things like overheads. I also use them on guitar amps from time to time, but also on floor toms, as a room mic for kits, bass amps and things like that. I don't have a pair of large diaphragm condensors and engineers always ask I have them. Other things I feel like I need to have are another 421, an RE-20 or SM7 and another 414 so I have a pair of multiple pattern mics. I'm also planning on getting one really nice mic sometime after the first of the year. Probably something tube like a Blue Cactus or Bottle, Neumann CVM563, Soundelux E47 or U99. Something to impress the clients and myself. I also want more omni mics, either Earthworks or maybe just those Behringer things. Other things I wouldn't mind having around are some EV635's, a 441 or two, a pair of Royer R-121s and KM184's or similar. Those are things that I don't need but I want to have.

I'd rather have more mics then preamps for color. They make a bigger difference in a recording. If I was just recording myself I probably wouldn't spend this kind of money and have such a large cabinet. But, owning a commercial studio I need to keep everyone happy and have lots of options. As of right now the only thing I really "need" is the 103 and that's not even for myself.
Old 26th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
I actually think the pattern on the Baby Bottle is pretty wide. Not what I would call a hyper-cardiod mic at all. It's got a bit of a peak around 3-4khz and the top seems to start rolling off around 10khz or so which makes it sound very forward and smooth.

you'd know better than i would, jay. just seemed to me that the results were very "on" the guitar sound, without any of the extraneous surrounding room or noise. would that be the effect of the peak being so "forward?" i mean, in the end, the trax are huge sounding (especially the doubled parts). in any event, it's quite a lovely sounding mic for electric guitar. highly recommend it, myself.


ml
Old 26th September 2002
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Jay, those Behringer omnis are noisy as ****! They are ok if the signal is loud but once you start cranking them the hiss starts coming. They do sound ok other than that but i guess it depends on your mix. If you can hide the hiss, go for them.

I tried using them on a "handclaps section" with like 10 people in the room once and i ended up throwing it against the wall because it was so noisy. ANYTHING worked better for that application. Of course, YMMV

The Blue Baby bottle is high on my list of mic purchases because i need something new to put on guitar amps. At 8thstreet.com they are selling them for $499 WITH the pop filter and shock mount!

As far as the Shure SM7 goes, i'm dying to get it in here for another flavor on vocals and to try on some other sources (snare? guitar amps?). At only $299 (http://www.bswusa.com) i can't see how someone could pass that up.

Now if anyone knows where to get a Beyer M201 let me know!!! (sorry i took this post so off topic).
Old 26th September 2002
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I'd be using the Behrigners for overheads and other various places around a drum. Possibly in front of guitar amps too.

It's easy to find a Beyer dealer. Finding a Beyer dealer with stock is a different thing though. Did you try Full Compass?
Old 29th September 2002
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baby bottle users

I'm also planning on getting one really nice mic sometime after the first of the year. Probably something tube like a Blue Cactus or Bottle, Neumann CVM563, Soundelux E47 or U99. Something to impress the clients and myself.
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I was in that position this time last year and spent over six months reading, listening and talking to folks before I decided on the Soundelux U99. But then I was offered a new BLUE Bottle for an amazing price and I couldn't pass up this kind of opportunity. The flexibility offered by 8 different capsules puts the Bottle in a class of its own among the new,big dollar, tube mics. I've got two of the capsules so far and will definitely purchase at least one more (an omni). You've got to hear this mic........

And it also wins the "most visually impressive mic in the world" contest without any serious competition. The mic is BIG, well made and sounds as good as it looks. At $4k, its a great mic; at less than $3k for a new model, I was one lucky SOB.

steve
Old 29th September 2002
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Re: baby bottle users

Quote:
Originally posted by hollywood_steve
At $4k, its a great mic; at less than $3k for a new model, I was one lucky SOB.
...And the place you got lucky was?


Did that question sound dirty or is it me?heh heh heh
Old 30th September 2002
  #16
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Re: Re: baby bottle users

Tim, I think ya gotta get out a little more...
Old 30th September 2002
  #17
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Go out(?)...hmmmm....please to say, what is out?

....so that's what that door's for
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