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Help me choose please: API or Vintech
Old 7th May 2006
  #1
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Help me choose please: API or Vintech

Hello,

Im looking for a MicPre/Eq. I've read 1000 posts on the subject.

I've narrowed my choice between:
API: 512C, 550B, 500-6B or
Vintech X73i

Once I used the API set up and liked it but Ive never used a Vintech or Neve.
I have a Shure KSM-32 and am considering picking up a SM7B.

Here are some clips of my voice and music:
http://www.thingstocome.com/audio/SexMachine.mp3
http://www.thingstocome.com/audio/ma...utureForce.mp3
http://www.thingstocome.com/audio/Bo..._Horrorist.mp3
http://www.thingstocome.com/audio/ma...reInTheSky.mp3

Im living in Berlin and it's doubtfull I will be able to get test units to try out.

Id rather not hear any advice about any other units. My initial research has convinced me mostly that these are my 2 choices.

The above audio clips were mic->motu828->TC Powercore software compressor, eq

I really do appreciate your advice greatly.
Old 8th May 2006
  #2
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Old 8th May 2006
  #3
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I think Neve type pre's are better for adding the warmth/distortion/color that music of your genre typically benefits from. Thus.. .out of your two choices... I would go for the Vintech. The API has great attack, but is typically a little "cleaner" unless cranked. Since there is no "make-up" gain on the API, it's more difficult to coax the gritty, edgy tones you would most likely prefer with the API without the output gain. Also... the Vintech has a very nice EQ which you will love.

Just my 2 cents...
Old 8th May 2006
  #4
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Crypticglobe,

Thanks... this is the kind of information Im looking for. Anyone else have any views? I really want sharp edgy agressive vocals.
Old 8th May 2006
  #5
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Yeah, the Vintech is perfect for that application. I have both but always use the X73i on vocals precisely to get that aggression.
Old 8th May 2006
  #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slater
Hello,

Im looking for a MicPre/Eq. I've read 1000 posts on the subject.

I've narrowed my choice between:
API: 512C, 550B, 500-6B or
Vintech X73i

Once I used the API set up and liked it but Ive never used a Vintech or Neve.
I have a Shure KSM-32 and am considering picking up a SM7B.

The above audio clips were mic->motu828->TC Powercore software compressor, eq

I really do appreciate your advice greatly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by crypticglobe
The API has great attack, but is typically a little "cleaner" unless cranked. Since there is no "make-up" gain on the API, it's more difficult to coax the gritty, edgy tones you would most likely prefer with the API without the output gain. Also... the Vintech has a very nice EQ which you will love.

Just my 2 cents...
I think you would be a perfect candidate for the new API A2D... It not only has an input attenuator (fader) at the converter, but the new 2:1 button. The 2:1 feature allows you to tap the output transformer differently for less gain by - 10 db. That way you can not only crank the input and get a little distortion going, but you can also back off on the output tranny to drive the input tranny and 2520 harder...

Plus, it would bypass the next weak link in your signal chain, the converter.

Here's an in-depth look at it:

http://highprofileaudio.com/APIA2D.htm
Old 8th May 2006
  #7
Why did you rule out the Chandler Channel?
Old 8th May 2006
  #8
Gear Nut
 

I saw the API A2D but I only need 1 pre and it doesnt have an EQ...

I didnt consider chandler only because I was lost in a sea of mic-pre's I could never try so I narrowed it down by what Ive read so far...
I trust MIX when they say the Vintech is very close to a Neve (Not that I even actually know 1st hand wether thats good or not!).... so an extra $1200 for a Chandler? Maybe not for me at my level...
Old 9th May 2006
  #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slater
I trust MIX when they say the Vintech is very close to a Neve (Not that I even actually know 1st hand wether thats good or not!).... so an extra $1200 for a Chandler? Maybe not for me at my level...
Why would you ever trust a magazine???
Old 9th May 2006
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API 512 and a 550 end of story
Old 9th May 2006
  #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superburtm
API 512 and a 550 end of story
Agreed...
Old 9th May 2006
  #12
Gear Nut
 

Does anyone know a dealer in Berlin that has these units and would let me sit and listen to them?
Old 9th May 2006
  #13
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I couldn't make up my mind so I ordered a 1272 and a 312A from Brent Averill and couldn't be happier. They sell single channel units.
Old 9th May 2006
  #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Krubbadoo
I couldn't make up my mind so I ordered a 1272 and a 312A from Brent Averill and couldn't be happier. They sell single channel units.
Now THAT is the slutty way to handle this problem!!
Old 9th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superburtm
API 512 and a 550 end of story
+1 for me too. Why go for a clone, when you can have the original.
Old 9th May 2006
  #16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bat Head Sound
+1 for me too. Why go for a clone, when you can have the original.

Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 9th May 2006
  #17
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API A2D like Tony's first response.

The converters on the MOTU 828 will seriously compromise your signal chain. I've tried the MOTU 828. I've never taken anything back so quickly.
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