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Sum 2 mics to 1 track - Rolls vs. BAE
Old 29th December 2011
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Sum 2 mics to 1 track - Rolls vs. BAE

I want to blend 2 mics to 1 track during tracking (for guitar and bass cabinets). Since I am going to 8 track tape, to save tracks I need to blend at the tracking stage.

I have 4 BAE 1073s so I was thinking the BAE line mixer would be a good solution, however at $490 I am not sure why I would spend that kind of money when it seems like I can get a Rolls line mixer for $40

Line Mixer

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Rolls MS20b Mic Splitter/Combiner/Isolator | ActiveMusician

What's the benefit of the BAE version (besides having 4 inputs to 2 outs)?

I will most likely be blending 2 of the BAE 1073s, or a single 1073 + w/ a Chandler Germanium Preamp.
Old 30th December 2011
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I am about to try this, I have some API pre's with two outs per channel so I can split the signal, recording two tracks at same take. Wish my Neves were like this, might be a way since mine have mults on the front too. I have used two mics and liked how that worked......
Old 2nd January 2012
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Bump. Anyone know the difference/benefit of the 10x more expensive BAE line mixer vs the Rolls?
Old 2nd January 2012
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Summing is one of those black magic electronics things. There's certainly an issue of color (do the opamps or transformers used color the signal), gain makeup/balancing, introduction of noise, tolerance for hot signals etc. And one assumes the BAE is engineered to a higher standard than the Rolls (since they mention isolation, one has to assume at least a few transformers in there to prevent ground loops which will bump the cost a lot). That said, what do you lose by spending $40 on the Rolls and seeing if you like the sound?
Old 4th January 2012
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Turns out BAE doesn't make those line mixers anymore. Any other options?

I also have a Trident Fleximix console I could use to route different pres/mics to one subgroup, and use the direct outs to tape, however I am looking for a more portable solution as I am doing some location recording, and the Fleximix is a bit large to bring around just for summing. However, I'll do it if it will sound better than the Rolls.
Old 4th January 2012
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I use the BAE all the time.

I use the BAE mixer quite a lot.
Mostly to sum Kick mic's in and out to one track, and snare top & bottom also to one track.

Basically I take the output of my pre amps, two for Kick, & 2 for Snare and wire their outputs to the BAE Line Mixer.
Pre's are either Daking 52270 or Helios type 69's. I EQ if needed, adjust the phase, then use their respective output level controls to get the mix (blend) I want.
The summed output of the Line Mixer to tape, digital, whatever.

Can't get much easier, and the unit sounds great!
Old 4th January 2012
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Since BAE no loner makes the line mixer, what are my other options besides the rolls?
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