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The birth of SSL Mixing Online! Effects Pedals, Units & Accessories
Old 17th September 2011
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The birth of SSL Mixing Online!

Hey guys just wanted to show you a little video I shot today for my new thang. Trying to get it going so I can stay connected with the world when living in NC.

http://www.sslmixingonline.com

Old 17th September 2011
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Very cool! Good luck with that.

Who's the band? Good vox!

Cheers.
Old 17th September 2011
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Very cool! Good luck with that.

Who's the band? Good vox!

Cheers.
Thanks that's actually me singing.
Old 17th September 2011
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Brilliant and you have the rep to pull it off.

<mental bookmark for later>
Old 17th September 2011
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That's great. Well thought out. Good luck!
Old 17th September 2011
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Very cool!
Old 17th September 2011
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Very cool. Does it require much bandwidth?
Old 18th September 2011
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Very cool. Does it require much bandwidth?
As far as internet? I've been able to stream at the studio and at home which is just regular old DSL.

Someone showed me this, an app:
App Store - Source-Live Gateway
Old 18th September 2011
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I think this is a fantastic idea.....


good luck with it...

cheers

Wiz
Old 18th September 2011
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Its a great idea . I think its much better than being there . Instead of having to waste time driving or traveling to your studio , you can sit at home , in your underwear drinking beer , watching TV , and have your laptop next to you to check out the mixes , while James slaves away at your music .
Old 18th September 2011
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That's pretty useful to get people "in" the session, without them being directly over your shoulder.

Of course it does invite more real time comment from folks as you're working stuff out (which, depending on your personal preference, could be good or bad). But I guess I'd personally try to just schedule things so that some of the foundational stuff was already mixed by the time they "attended" the remote session if possible.

So they comment via web cam? Or is it like a comment via chat?
Old 18th September 2011
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That is really awesome....hmmm... makes me think!!!...
Old 18th September 2011
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Of course it does invite more real time comment from folks as you're working stuff out (which, depending on your personal preference, could be good or bad). But I guess I'd personally try to just schedule things so that some of the foundational stuff was already mixed by the time they "attended" the remote session if possible.

So they comment via web cam? Or is it like a comment via chat?
Yeah it be something that the artist would most likely log on when I'm 80 - 90% done. For me I actually like working with the client present, even if they get a little chatty and what I call wet paint crazy. I use to be a house painter and when people watch you paint they would go 'oops there's a line, there's a roller mark, that's not blending' etc... Then you'd have to tell them wait till it dries. Same thing a little with music but it doesn't bother me. I came from the world of being an artist and I always learned so much when sitting in on sessions and asking some questions. I hate to deny people that, I think it's important. Plus being a teacher I love to explain what I'm doing while I do it.

As far as the comments they can be via skype with a webcam or even a phone on speaker phone. I did some experimenting with people and nobody including me had trouble being logged and streaming on source-live and skype simultaneously. It worked like a charm.

As far as mixing with clients present I will also be having other mixers working with ssl mixing online and if they like to work mostly alone they can bring the client online later in the process.
Old 18th September 2011
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Let's try it
Old 18th September 2011
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Dude this is quite the concept. I may just have to go back to washing dishes because I can't compete.
Old 18th September 2011
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Gamechanger!

maybe change the font on the website so it doesn't look so much like your studio is a front for a satanist cult.

Aside from that, i think you're good and I wish you luck.
Old 18th September 2011
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Gamechanger!

maybe change the font on the website so it doesn't look so much like your studio is a front for a satanist cult.

Aside from that, i think you're good and I wish you luck.
lol

You know SSL stands for Satan Serving Longhair. Just kidding. Yeah the website is a wix.com one I built myself.
Old 18th September 2011
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P.S. If I knew I had this option available, it would probably change the way I work...
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Old 18th September 2011
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I've been doing that for a while now. Streamed a recall for a mariachi record in real time to a band while they were in their dressing room at a dave mathews band show in chicago and I was mixing in LA. Oh technology.

However, source live seems to integrate better with pro tools than what i have been doing.

Nice work.
Old 18th September 2011
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Ok, so what is the ball of doom?
The rainbow spinning ball in mac...lol
Old 18th September 2011
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Brilliant idea, I wish you a lot of success with this, and unlike many "new business ideas" in today's industry, think you will do really well with this!
Old 18th September 2011
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Thanks that's actually me singing.
Really? Wow. You have a talent there; that might be a good career for you.

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You know SSL stands for Satin Serving Longhair.
Satin, or Satan? I mean, I'm thinkin' TMB here....
Old 18th September 2011
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Cool Idea james.

But did you ever thought about the weakest link.

What if the peole listening to your mix in a room that lies to them.
They say...wow turn down the kick its much to loud here.

I think you have to make sure they use at least something like an AKG K 701 which is very precise so you can exclude the room of your clients.

It will save you time and endless discussions....

Any way the idea is very cool....
Old 18th September 2011
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Brilliant idea, I wish you a lot of success with this, and unlike many "new business ideas" in today's industry, think you will do really well with this!
Thanks I feel strong about it.

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This really is a great concept!

As a matter of fact I recently wrote a new song (first in many years) and recorded it in a studio, done and saved in Pro Tools at 88.2/24, with the first acoustic track and drums transferred from a Studer 800. heh

It was recorded and mixed pretty quick to meet a deadline, start to finish in 2 days. I started writing the song from scratch three weeks earlier, didn't know I still had it in me. I definitely planned on remixing it better when I have more time (and money). We will have to talk!
SG I just heard the tune I really like it and I like your voice super real sounding. It's actually refreshing to hear.

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Cool Idea james.

But did you ever thought about the weakest link.

What if the peole listening to your mix in a room that lies to them.
They say...wow turn down the kick its much to loud here.

I think you have to make sure they use at least something like an AKG K 701 which is very precise so you can exclude the room of your clients.

It will save you time and endless discussions....

Any way the idea is very cool....
Yeah I think there will be things like that but I know my car stereo isn't very accurate but I know exactly how s**t should sound through it. For me sometimes those setting can be good. Personally I get a better feeling sometimes of where a kick should be when I bring it in my car with the massive sub then in my room on NS10s. In the car I know the kick is right when the rear view mirror shakes. Like on Staub mixes! I will most likely give an alternate mix if I think the client is struggling with sonic perception, hell I give myself alternate mixes when I go to mastering just as a safety net.
Old 21st September 2011
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What ftp type of service do you guys use for getting large sessions?
Old 21st September 2011
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Cool Idea james.

But did you ever thought about the weakest link.

What if the peole listening to your mix in a room that lies to them.
But if its the room they are USED TO thats good isn't it?

A lot of the time people that record stuff themselvs can freak out when they get to a mix room and say "I dont know this room" (how can they?) so there are trust and prior experience issues that come into play. But on a plus point, lot of home recordists become EXPERTS in their own environment (playing CD's in their own studio etc) This way, clients get to hear the mix in a room they already know very well.. One less brick in the paranoia wall...
Old 22nd September 2011
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But if its the room they are USED TO thats good isn't it?
Not necessarily. A good mix from a good room (James, for ex.) will not necessarily translate well to a bad room. If you are used to hearing things a certain way in an untreated room, and you all of a sudden hear a proper mix in that room, it may not sound right to you.

Cheers.
Old 22nd September 2011
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This is really, really cool.
Old 22nd September 2011
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This is really, really cool.
Thanks man. I'm getting excited.
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