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x2 New Mics - £1200 Budget Condenser Microphones
Old 9th September 2011
  #1
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x2 New Mics - £1200 Budget

Ok, I need two new mics.

One for acoustic guitars/mandolin/banjo etc
One for Vocals. (Male and Female)

I have a budget of around £1200. I'd prefer to buy new just for less hassle.

I would like something like a 414 (SE 4400a perhaps?)
and a good vocal mic (Maybe Ribbon??)

Any quick advice much appreciated!

K
Old 9th September 2011
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Get a pair of AKG C414s... I've used them a lot on vocals and they sound great... they're also brilliant for acoustic guitars using the Blumlein Technique.

I've done a mandolin recording which came out well and I'm pretty sure I used C414s for that too.
Old 9th September 2011
  #3
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Yeah, just google that technique. Coolio! I figured a 414 would come up. LOVE those!
Would be nice to have something different too. IE : two options. Are SE any good?
Old 9th September 2011
  #4
You could try a pencil condenser for your acoustic instruments. I use a Microtech Gefell M300 for acoustic guitars, it's priced at around £750 so would eat up a large portion of your budget but sounds fantastic. For slightly less money, £420, have a look at the Josephson C42, I've never used it myself but have heard it's very good on acoustic guitars.
Old 10th September 2011
  #5
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Great, thanks again! Looking into those right now ...

P.S: SE no good then? Prices seem reasonable

Last edited by kabb; 10th September 2011 at 03:40 AM.. Reason: PS
Old 10th September 2011
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Old 10th September 2011
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Since you're in the UK, you could check out SONTRONICS microphones.

I tried one (Orpheus multipattern) head-to-head with a 414 and ended up buy the Sontronics.

They also have a cool ribbon mic...Worth giving a look - or an earful
Old 10th September 2011
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yes, I'd like to try some Sontronics mics. They appear to be a lot more neutral than the C414Bs, so ought (for acoustic instruments) to be more useful. The Sontronics website implies they're content for people to try-before-you-buy with them...

If they're still doing their "get an SDC pencil condenser free with an LDC" promotion, then they are a very good deal indeed.
(I think I still saw some of these offers on eBay...)
Old 10th September 2011
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Are you looking for a pair or just two mics?

M179 would be great and then a sdc like the ones everyone has already mentioned.

Mojave ma200 would fit the bill too
Old 11th September 2011
  #10
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Guys, much appreciated again for all the info!

No, I wasn't looking for a pair. I ideally want x2 different mics. One for Vocals and one for Acoustic Instruments. I know AKG 414s and they do both v v well. I want variety too. (Spice of life etc)

So ... (for both vocals and acoustics)
People keep banging on about the Shure SM7b which seems like a good all round vocal mic for the price?
Also, the Sontronics Orpheus seems like a very strong contender too.
I also got pointed in the dirrection of the Cascade 731R ribbon mic which looks tasty.
Mojave ma200 also a contender although seems like mixed reviews on here (some harshness?)
As for the CAD M179 ... do they still make these?
Neumann TLM49
I also got pointed in the direction of the Peluso P 12?
And one more option ... Oktava Mod Mics!?

So ... addictivly researching! Still not decided although the guys here have been a massive help in helping me choose an interface (Metric Halo LIO-8) and Preamps (Lunchbox with MA5, LaChappel 583s and Shadow Hills mono gama)

I may be able to stretch budget so keep those suggestions coming. I REALLY appreciate it! Thanks again!!

K

P.S: Are SE Mics one to avoid? They seem well priced etc

Last edited by kabb; 11th September 2011 at 11:54 AM.. Reason: P.S
Old 11th September 2011
  #11
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We have an Se Gemini II for sale for £700, that would give you a really versatile LDC for vocals (and lots of other things!) and £500 left over to get something like a Beyer M160 (great on banjo/acoustic guitar/mandolin) and still leave you with about £150 change!
Cheers
Al
Old 11th September 2011
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Seeing as you want a vocal mic for both male and female vocals, I would go for a LDC (of the 414B/SE/Sontronics sort of type) rather than an SM7B.

Nothing against the SM7B, but it's a mic that either works on a particular voice or doesn't. Whereas a multi-pattern LDC gives you a few more options.

I've never used any Cascade ribbons, but if I was going to go for one purely on spec it would be one of their long ribbons - Victor or Vin-Jet - simply because they have an extended top-end, the one thing that you often have to EQ in with ribbon mics.

If I were you I would definitely get an LDC and an SDC (prefereably omni). That should leave you a bit of change. Live and work with those two for a while, then see if you feel you're lacking a certain flavour, which might require a ribbon or a dynamic. A lot of people, for instance, really like the Sennheiser MD421s on acoustic instruments, which is on my 'mics to try out one day' list...
Old 11th September 2011
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PS
414Bs are crazily more expensive in the UK/Europe than in the US. I'd strongly advise you to buy one 2ndhand, or at least B-Stock. They just seem to be way over-priced, to the extent that it's almost worth braving customs and ordering from the US.
Old 11th September 2011
  #14
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Looking into it all guys! Thanks!! Gemini II? £700 seems ok but no one seems to really talk about SE. I was kinda taking that as a bad thing
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