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Old 17th September 2011
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actully that video is hillarious...if he's for real, I'm a turtle.
You're a turtle? Must be difficult and slow to type.
Old 17th September 2011
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You're a turtle? Must be difficult and slow to type.
Ok...I'll bite...let me google that for myself...
Old 17th September 2011
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fear the turtle

md over wva by 1
Old 17th September 2011
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Seriously, guys. Girls. Engineers of Earth. It's inarguable that taking higher sample rates is the only way to go. That's why I'm making a new machine. A sample rate of 256 Bit 1,572MHz. That's right. I'm sampling at a rate of 1.5 Tetrahertz a second. Should sound pretty good imo.
or you could go to infinite sample bits and sample rate
and get the smoothest nicest sounds ever
make up a great name like analog
and get rich selling it
Old 17th September 2011
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But.. they're so close to ironing this out... heh

Me... I felt like I got off with what I could almost take as a compliment from LisaSmiles...
I like that.

But, sadly, it's not strictly true.

I'm actually a cowardly sycophant who tries to figure out who's actually right in any given circumstance and then sides with them.

heh


I remember my introduction to Dan Lavry.

It was some years ago and I was holding forth with the (rather embarrassingly incorrect) notion that sample rate conversion from an 'even multiple' would tend to produce better results and Dan Lavry came into the thread and politely but firmly handed me my head.

I asked myself, Who's this Dan Lavry guy to tell me what's what?!?

Then I did the research into just who this Dan Lavry guy actually was, answered my own question, and shut the hell up. heh


Actually, I think Narcoman may have tried to straighten me out, as well, come to think of it. And maybe a couple of other of you guys. I may not have been immediately forthcoming with it then, but, Thanks!
seems like i remember dan lavry selling stuff on late night infomercials some years back
Old 17th September 2011
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So here's something random...

I bought a pair of Hosa insert cables.

Going to compare them to a pair of Monster insert cables I bought a few years ago.

I don't use the Monsters because the plugs are oversized (of course) and will ruin pretty much any jack you plug them into. But for the purposes of testing I'll use them at least for a little session. fn monster plugs man.
Old 17th September 2011
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seems like i remember dan lavry selling stuff on late night infomercials some years back
And... if you buy the Lavry AD122-96 MkIII in the next fifteen minutes we'll throw in a Lavry 2 Channel at no extra charge!
Old 17th September 2011
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And... if you buy the Lavry AD122-96 MkIII in the next fifteen minutes we'll throw in a Lavry 2 Channel at no extra charge!
not going to buy from anybody who does not know the truth about alleged intersample peaks nor who thinks dBFS works in the analog domain
Old 17th September 2011
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not going to buy from anybody who does not know the truth about alleged intersample peaks nor who thinks dBFS works in the analog domain
Please enlighten us!


DC
Old 17th September 2011
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Aaaargh!
Old 17th September 2011
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Aaaargh!
... so completely!
Old 18th September 2011
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Another trip around the merry-go-round anyone?
Old 18th September 2011
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You're a turtle? Must be difficult and slow to type.
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Ok...I'll bite...let me google that for myself...
hmmm yeah...for the sake of the thread and I'm not gonna get into what I think of the web persona/presence...I will say that it's a whole new level of shameless self promotion out there in web land.


On the topic of Dan Lavry. Could someone please point me to a record produced or engineered by the man. For the life of me I can't seem to find one. I must be spelling his name wrong or something.
Old 18th September 2011
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Can anyone else smell ad hominem?

///

We should just beam "sinc(x)" up into the night sky to warn Lavryman that the Joker is at it again ...
Old 18th September 2011
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On the topic of Dan Lavry. Could someone please point me to a record produced or engineered by the man. For the life of me I can't seem to find one. I must be spelling his name wrong or something.
Perhaps you could point us to a top of the line A/D or D/A converter you designed as well? We aren't talking about how to get a 'gnarly guitar tone' here, but about sampling theory.
Old 18th September 2011
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What is really going on here ? Sausages ? Turtles? MRI ? Over saturation? Tape shed? Isopropyl?

Is OAG Really MandyC or Lisasmile?
Mezed or or kfthth or however you say (when your phone doesn't do smilies )
Old 18th September 2011
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On the topic of Dan Lavry. Could someone please point me to a record produced or engineered by the man. For the life of me I can't seem to find one. I must be spelling his name wrong or something.
I think he's probably too busy designing some of the worlds best converters...doesn't leave a whole lot of time to be a hotshot recording engineer! That's my excuse for not being a better guitar player anyway...how can I find the time to practice for 4hrs a day?!

The best in the business tend to specialise.
Old 18th September 2011
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who thinks dBFS works in the analog domain
That's some terminology we agree on anyway. Not that I think Dan Lavry wouldn't agree either, I'd imagine he's either been misquoted, not said what he meant properly or plain chose the wrong word!
Old 18th September 2011
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not going to buy from anybody who does not know the truth about alleged intersample peaks nor who thinks dBFS works in the analog domain
crikey!!!
Old 18th September 2011
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Please enlighten us!


DC
okay
see new thread on db
AES paper confused dBs to prove intersample peaks

hint dBFS is *only* valid in the digital domain
Old 18th September 2011
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crikey!!!

crikey yourself if you think that dBFS has any relation to dBu or dBV or dBSPL or dBm or anything else that is not in the digital domain.
Old 18th September 2011
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That's some terminology we agree on anyway. Not that I think Dan Lavry wouldn't agree either, I'd imagine he's either been misquoted, not said what he meant properly or plain chose the wrong word!
cant say for sure about dan
never found his alleged paper
but narcoman in this thread and many others
seem to think that dBFS can be compared/related to dBu
Old 18th September 2011
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I think he's probably too busy designing some of the worlds best converters...doesn't leave a whole lot of time to be a hotshot recording engineer! That's my excuse for not being a better guitar player anyway...how can I find the time to practice for 4hrs a day?!

The best in the business tend to specialise.
i managed to escape from touching hardware in the early 80s
doesnt mean that i dont still know how to design it

felt good about that last design too
but not enough to want to do it any more
combination of analog and digital in the same circuit
(interconnected with each other on the same card ) driving various specialised outputs
which was
connected to an a/d/a card in a microcomputer with a special sensor for a telecomm project. we displayed the status of the telecomm and triggered alarms, provided stats, encryption for security etc.
Old 18th September 2011
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crikey yourself if you think that dBFS has any relation to dBu or dBV or dBSPL or dBm or anything else that is not in the digital domain.
Well of course it doesn't have any absolute relation..but all it takes is a little "=" sign, and you've got a relationship.
Old 18th September 2011
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Well of course it doesn't have any absolute relation..but all it takes is a little "=" sign, and you've got a relationship.
Well, that was easy.


DC
Old 18th September 2011
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Well, that was easy.


DC
always easy for people who dont think
but parrot internet whizdumb
Old 18th September 2011
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Well of course it doesn't have any absolute relation..but all it takes is a little "=" sign, and you've got a relationship.
rotflamo

an = sign does not equate those things
that is just a typo
a humongous mistake
total bullbleep

there is NO relation between dBFS and dBu other than random
Old 18th September 2011
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rotflamo

an = sign does not equate those things
that is just a typo
a humongous mistake
total bullbleep

there is NO relation between dBFS and dBu other than random
Are you for real? I'm beginning to doubt you're for real.

Any value, and I mean any value, can be assigned to relate analog levels to digital ones. +4dBu = -20dBFS is a popular one, but it could be anything.

Like your 10,000V A/D converter, for instance. Maybe you set 5,000V to -20dBFS. You might consider gloves for that, though. Electric shock is no joking matter.



DC
Old 18th September 2011
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You know... on reflection... I don't think we really fully appreciated walters when we had him.
Old 18th September 2011
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You know... on reflection... I don't think we really fully appreciated walters when we had him.
Speak for yourself : )

But as far as troll memes go, his brand of subtlety makes for low reproductive success, whereas JP22 on the other hand...
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