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Old 4th September 2011
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Dynamic Vocalist!

Hi Slutz,

I've been tracking a very dynamic male vocalist, a baritone that can hit high notes way out of that of a baritones vocal range. The style is indie rock and during the quieter / verses of the songs his voice is nice and warm and easy to collect, however when he is giving it some his high notes have a natural thin sound & saturation to them.

After trying a few mics we found that a modest SM58 soothed this gristly sound the best. The difficulty I'm having is that when he goes into the chorus the vocals sound very thin in the context of the mix. I'm finding this troublesome to cure.

If any of you have a tricks for maintaining fullness in dynamic vocals during the higher parts I'd love to know them.

Thanks

Q
Old 4th September 2011
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RiF
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How about using different mics for the verses and the choruses?
Old 4th September 2011
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You might consider recording the verses and choruses separately. Get good settings (and maybe even different mics) for each.
Old 4th September 2011
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as above.
Old 4th September 2011
  #5
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It's too late for that. I've got to work with what I have now unfortunately. Any thoughts on mix techniques?
Old 4th September 2011
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Without hearing, I'm just gonna suggest a boost at 200hz with a Q of 1.0
Old 4th September 2011
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automate compression to act on the regular baritone parts to limit the dynamics to the same dynamic range of the high weird saturated parts, and automate high shelf 12k there, very low Q, add 2 dB.

automate de-ess the high weird part.

automate EQ to lop off some high end from the high weird saturated part.
Old 4th September 2011
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I would automate track levels for a start - before it hits compression. Otherwise the loud chorus parts will overcompress and make the problem worse.

I would seperate verse and chorus parts into seperate tracks, and that makes it easier to apply different eq and FX.

To thicken up the chorus parts, you might consider doing the classic pitch shift chorus thing - clone two tracks, pitch one down 6 cents and the other up 6 cents and pan these hard left/right.

You could even experiment with a hint of sub octave underneath. Or harmony parts.

Everything is relative - you could always make the verses smaller with eq or even amp/cab simulation etc.

There's always something you can do ...
Old 5th September 2011
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Ok. Thanks for all your comments. I'll give these techniques a whirl.
Old 5th September 2011
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Use a short Delay with high frequency rolled off and the low frequency percentage up. Most of them let you specify what frequency the highs and lows crossover.

Or some kind of tape saturation plug-in.
Old 5th September 2011
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Originally Posted by recorder2 View Post
automate compression to act on the regular baritone parts to limit the dynamics to the same dynamic range of the high weird saturated parts, and automate high shelf 12k there, very low Q, add 2 dB.

automate de-ess the high weird part.

automate EQ to lop off some high end from the high weird saturated part.
1+ on this.
I had to do this pretty recently on my own extremely dynamic voice.
Only solution with some voices.
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