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MC77-1176 Settings on Vocals HELP Effects Pedals, Units & Accessories
Old 10th June 2011
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MC77-1176 Settings on Vocals HELP

Hey guys I've got a brand new MC77 I'm working with for tracking some vocals and I need some help. I have been using a Chandler Germanium which is a different animal.

I got the MC77 with the goal of getting some real pumpy, vintage vocal sounds going, for a singer songwriter I am recording who does this Richie Havens sort of thing with guitar. I'm trying to get (for lack of a better explanation) that up close sound ala John Mayer where a lot of his nuances (low parts) can be readily heard and the feeling of motion or movement out of the comp for drama and added vibe. Any recommendations on settings? Thanks!!
Old 10th June 2011
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Crank it until you bury the needle.
Old 10th June 2011
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12:1

attack 5

Release same or even faster


at least 10db of GR



Perfect!


J.
Old 10th June 2011
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i would never approach a close up john mayer thing with one compressor.

primarily, that is how he sings. secondly, i might try a compressor with low ratio high threshold into a second comp with a higher ratio kind of pumping with the song. a third limiter just barely touching the peaks.
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I'm finding a few camps:

4:1 (slow attack / fast release) This seems to be most popular setting.

4:1 ( slightly slow attack 10 o'clock or 3 on MC77/ slightly fast release 2 o'clock or 5 on MC77)limiting setting

8:1 ( )

12:1 (attack hard left or slowest / release hard right or fastest)

12:1 (attack fast 6 also called "2 o'clock" / release fastest or 7 full clockwise)

"All In" (slowest attack/fastest release) also (10 o'clock/2 o'clock)

Tips: Back off input for light limiting.
Increase input to hit harder compression.
Slower attack times let more transients and gritty highs through.
8-10db most popular gain reduction.
4:1 more soft knee
12:1 and 20:1 more limiting
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[QUOTE=shaneoconnor;6734321]i would never approach a close up john mayer thing with one compressor.


Shane that was my plan actually. Thanks for the advice. High threshold on an 1176 refers to setting the input level low? So the compressor is barely kicking in?

I read Joe Ferla's comments that he smashes John Mayer's vocal in RenVox, and that Mayer likes a ton of compression in the cans when tracking.
Old 10th June 2011
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Originally Posted by yotonic View Post
4:1 (slow attack / fast release) This seems to be most popular setting.
This one is a go-to for me for vocals, hell - most things!
Old 10th June 2011
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I'm a big fan of:
8:1 or 12:1
fastest attack
fastest release
crank the input up till you get -10 to -20dB gain reduction
Old 10th June 2011
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The OP did say "real pumpy, vintage vocal sounds", so a higher ration, fast attack release and hit it hard.

Recent Steve Earle records have a nice version of that sound.
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Thanks PRobb. When everyone says "hit it hard" that means increase the input clockwise towards the number zero correct?


I found what I was looking for "pumpy, vintage vocal" at 12:1 (6 attack, 7 release). Someone here called it the "Bones Howe" setting.

I also really like 12:1 slowest attack and fastest release for more transients and sustain.
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No one is mentioning JM's U47, or current TFunk ELA M 251, as contributing to the intimate vocal.
Old 10th June 2011
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I second the slow attack fast release. Best starting place. 9 times out of 10, I have my attack between 2 and 3, release around 6.5, and ratio of 4:1 with the needle buried half the time. Sometimes 8:1 sounds amazing. If it's screaming vocals, my attack is more around 5-6. it's pretty hard to mess up compression on this unit, but I do know of a few people who initially didn't understand that the attack and release are backwards, unit wise (1 being slow, 7 being fast)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Poulin View Post
12:1

attack 5

Release same or even faster


at least 10db of GR



Perfect!


J.
Almost the same settings here,
12:1
Attack 6
Release 7
3-10db's reduction

This will get you the character that you're noticing with Mayer.

The magic is in the fast release setting.
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