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AIR 10000hz "oohs" synth Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 23rd December 2010
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AIR 10000hz "oohs" synth

Hello ,

Do you know how to produce the "oohs" choir pad/synth on

AIR 10000hz - How does it make you feel ?
(We can hear it from 0'55" on YouTube - Air - How Does It Make You Feel)

It's so beautiful! Is it multiple takes of a real voice saying "ooh" or a synth?
It sounds like Mellotron's choir, but I think it's not... It's smoother and sweeter than a Mellotron I think.

Thanks in advance !
Jebb
Old 23rd December 2010
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Definitely not a synth. Those are real people, run through effects.
Old 25th December 2010
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Okay !

I was thinking it was some "Choir" oohs Synth preset... You're right : maybe it's real singers
What kind of effects are used to produce such a "pad" sound / soft and sweet ?

Thanks
Old 25th December 2010
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Old 25th December 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul EQ View Post
Check out this 10cc documentary - it tells you how it
was originally done before Air copied the idea.

That's not a Fairlight in the Air track, it's a combo of the Mellotron choir and what sounds like layers of real voices and other choir patches.


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Old 25th December 2010
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Thanks a lot Paul EQ !!
It is a wonderful video that I discovered thanks to you !

What a interesting story in the history of production techniques
I'll need to view this video several times in order to understand well (I'm not Native english)...
Old 26th December 2010
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Thanks for posting, really enjoyed listening to that.


Slight unnecessary bone pick, but doppler effect? I'll complete the **** sandwich by saying that it was lively to hear about the way they went about making music.
Old 26th December 2010
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That's not a Fairlight in the Air track, it's a combo of the Mellotron choir and what sounds like layers of real voices and other choir patches.
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Hi u b k,
Thanks for the answer.
How do you know Mellotron and real voices and choir patches were used ?
Were you there during the recording session ?

Thanks in advance
Old 27th December 2010
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How do you know Mellotron and real voices and choir patches were used ?

How do you know that's an acoustic guitar on the intro to Stairway to Heaven?


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Old 28th December 2010
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How do you know that's an acoustic guitar on the intro to Stairway to Heaven?
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I thought it was some balalaika... !? Am I wrong...


[ u b k : My previous post was not in order to offense you, I just wanted to know if you are sure because you participated to the recording of this song or because you know the right person, ... or if it was just a guess ]
Old 28th December 2010
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Check out this 10cc documentary - it tells you how it
was originally done before Air copied the idea.

YouTube - 10cc - I'm Not In Love - making of documentary
I always thought it was the 10CC track.
Old 28th December 2010
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I thought it was some balalaika... !? Am I wrong...


[ u b k : My previous post was not in order to offense you, I just wanted to know if you are sure because you participated to the recording of this song or because you know the right person, ... or if it was just a guess ]
If you listen carefully it is fairly obvious that these are real multitracked voices. And yes augmented by a Mellotron quite likely or a choir patch from their VP-330 or Multimoog or CS-60 etc.. (They have a huge collection of vintage keyboards.)
Old 28th December 2010
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I've always assumed it was multitracked vocals; it sounds like it, and is the likeliest explanation. But yes, it's sublime.
Old 29th December 2010
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My previous post was not in order to offense you, I just wanted to know if you are sure because you participated to the recording of this song or because you know the right person..

No offense taken, I just responded with a direct question because the answer to both is the same: you simply know what certain sounds are without thinking, because you're intimately familiar with them.

I do happen to be good friends with the gent who recorded Virgin Suicides, he knows a good deal about most of their records as well and he's helped me on my latest recordings, getting a more authentic 70's drum and rhodes sound.

But on this track, it's clear there is a mellotron tucked into the mix, it's clear there are real voices in there, and I can't say for sure but it sure does sound like there's some rompler choir patch(es) in there as well.

Regardless of what's on the Air track, the larger point (for me) is to experiment and find your own way to your own sound. This track *does* harken to the 10cc song, but it is definitely not a Fairlight vocal sound, so Air created their own path to a similar effect and in my opinion they created something more magical. If they had simply used a Fairlight, it would not be this magical because it would not be new and unfamiliar.

So forge your own path to a celestial, eery, disembodied choir sound, and maybe in a few years someone will be on here asking us how you did it.


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Old 29th December 2010
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This track *does* harken to the 10cc song, but it is definitely not a Fairlight vocal sound, so Air created their own path to a similar effect and in my opinion they created something more magical. If they had simply used a Fairlight, it would not be this magical because it would not be new and unfamiliar.
Uh... 10cc didn't use a fairlight.
Old 29th December 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul EQ
Check out this 10cc documentary - it tells you how it
was originally done before Air copied the idea.

YouTube - 10cc - I'm Not In Love - making of documentary
Great vid thanks
Very inspiring!
Sound design...gotta get to work
Old 31st December 2010
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Uh... 10cc didn't use a fairlight.

Crap, you're right. I got no excuse here, I was just plain wrong.

In a half-assed attempt to save some face, I offer another amazing band that used this same technique of layering voices to tape and playing the chords with faders: REM on 'Star Me Kitten'.




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Old 31st December 2010
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I do happen to be good friends with the gent who recorded Virgin Suicides, he knows a good deal about most of their records as well and he's helped me on my latest recordings, getting a more authentic 70's drum and rhodes sound.

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Wow. That's in my top 5 albums ever. Sounds like a good guy to know!
Old 31st December 2010
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I could be wrong but I definitely hear some Roland VP330 in there. The choir setting with chorus and also some human vocoded voice mixed in with the synth.
Old 31st December 2010
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I know that Air use the Boss VT-1 Voice Transformer on some of their vocals. They may have used that on those "oooooh"s.
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