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When mixing, at what RMS level do you aim?
Old 20th December 2010
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When mixing, at what RMS level do you aim?

When mixing, at what RMS level do you aim? i mean a mix that will go to mastering.
Old 20th December 2010
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When mixing, at what RMS level do you aim? i mean a mix that will go to mastering.
i don't want my mix to go to "mastering" ...so i mix at about -12 to -10.5 depending on program... i put mastering plugs in my 2 buss after i put my vocals in and before rides
Old 20th December 2010
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I mix with master limiter on my tracks. -6.5dB rms is cool. if the needle sticks and doesn't move anymore, my clients are happy.
Old 20th December 2010
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Calibrate your monitor system to K-14, and then mix to 0dB rms.
Old 20th December 2010
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-18dB FS RMS, then off to the mastering guy, or I'll pseudo master it myself from there. I check the mix with some comps/limiters around -10 to make sure things are peaking through or not getting lost.

Actually, if I'm not down around that level, I'll get peaks that are in the red.

I'm mixing off a console back into the converters.

It has been working pretty well for me/us.
Old 20th December 2010
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Why would any number be involved on a mix that is going off for mastering?

If I want something dense and crowded,I mix something that sounds dense and crowded and let the numbers fall where they do.

If I want something open with large impact, I mix something that sounds open with large impact and let the numbers fall where they do.
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I usually print 2 versions of each mix, One for client approval and one for mastering...
Mastering is usually anywhere from -20 to -12 depending on the source material.

Client ref is around -8... Hotter than that is just silly. Some ME's don't even hit it that hard.
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I usually print 2 versions of each mix, One for client approval and one for mastering...
Mastering is usually anywhere from -20 to -12 depending on the source material.

Client ref is around -8... Hotter than that is just silly. Some ME's don't even hit it that hard.
when i saw tony maseratti at AES he said that's what he does too
Old 20th December 2010
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I usually print 2 versions of each mix, One for client approval and one for mastering...
Mastering is usually anywhere from -20 to -12 depending on the source material.

Client ref is around -8... Hotter than that is just silly. Some ME's don't even hit it that hard.
Same here, but my levels are usually -14dB RMS for mastering and -10dB RMS for client refs.
Old 20th December 2010
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For an RMS level I aim for 0VU [a RMS value] - which will often have peaks that will run 15+db hotter than that -- so, my question to you is are you trying to determine an RMS value while reading the PPM scale on the meters associated with DAW's?

The VU [Volume Unit] scale and the PPM [Peak Program Metering] scales are quite different -- VU being an RMS value, PPM being what it says it is.

Peace.
Old 20th December 2010
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Forte' RMS levels in the range from 0VU to +3VU, just as nature intended.

Cheers,

Otto
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I mix around 0VU too...I'm on an analog console mixing to tape. In DAW land that equates to somewhere between -20 dBFS and -14 dBFS. I use K-14 to calibrate my monitors.

Brad
Old 20th December 2010
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-20 to m-14 depending. I use ITB averaging meters (they pretend to be VU meters) set for K-14.
Old 20th December 2010
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I also generally end up around-15 RMS with peaks of up to -.3 or so...depends on how specific I wanna get with peaky transients
Old 21st December 2010
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For an RMS level I aim for 0VU [a RMS value] - which will often have peaks that will run 15+db hotter than that -- so, my question to you is are you trying to determine an RMS value while reading the PPM scale on the meters associated with DAW's?

The VU [Volume Unit] scale and the PPM [Peak Program Metering] scales are quite different -- VU being an RMS value, PPM being what it says it is.

Peace.
i refer to the DAW RMS meters.
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