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Hey, any of you west coast engineers! Gino Vannelli! Reverb/Delay Processors (HW)
Old 3rd March 2013
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This really rocks!! I have watched it a few times! Great to see Joe dissect some of the keyboard parts to these classic tracks! It's also cool to hear him talk about Carlos and Leon who are also on this thread as well!

Thanx for posting! Can't wait to see what else pops up on this thread!!

Rabid Gino and Joe fan~Jeff


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Here's an interview with Joe from last year about some of the earlier keyboard sounds KeyboardMag: An Afternoon With Joe Vannelli
Old 3rd March 2013
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This really rocks!! I have watched it a few times! Great to see Joe dissect some of the keyboard parts to these classic tracks! It's also cool to hear him talk about Carlos and Leon who are also on this thread as well!

Thanx for posting! Can't wait to see what else pops up on this thread!!

Rabid Gino and Joe fan~Jeff
Same here. We need to get Joe here. He is definitely a Gearslut!
Old 3rd March 2013
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Not to jinx it but I have the same hope/wish.

I was inspired to pull out my old Gino/Joe/Ross interview that was released on vinyl from J West Productions back when B2B was released.

It is a really good hour long + interview of all of them.

C'mon Joe! Inspire and enlighten us! We know you're a GS!!!!!

Jeff



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Same here. We need to get Joe here. He is definitely a Gearslut!
Old 3rd March 2013
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I was just about to post that Keyboard Magazine video of Joe and the MaxiKorg... Awesome!

Long time Vannelli fan here, love most of the albums, but my favorites are "Storm At Sunup", "Gist Of The Gemini", "A Pauper In Paradise", "Brother To Brother", "Nightwalker" and "Yonder Tree".

I hope you guys own the live DVD from the 1979 tour (and some clips from 1976 I think, plus a couple of videos from the "Nightwalker" album). Gino, Joe, Mark Craney... Amazing.
Old 4th March 2013
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Not to jinx it but I have the same hope/wish.

I was inspired to pull out my old Gino/Joe/Ross interview that was released on vinyl from J West Productions back when B2B was released.

It is a really good hour long + interview of all of them.

C'mon Joe! Inspire and enlighten us! We know you're a GS!!!!!

Jeff



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I'd be very surprised if Joe isn't lurking here already. The guy has his own studio for christsakes
Old 25th April 2013
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I'd be very surprised if Joe was lurking. One morning in the studio Joe was reading Keyboard
And there was an ad for some new keyboard - I think it was a Roland. He says to Gino, " Hey this looks interesting." Gino says, "Why don't you call Bob and see if we can check it out."
We went to lunch and when we came back it was in the studio, brand new in the box.
Old 8th September 2013
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I stumbled on this whilst searching for something else, not Vannelli related.

I have worked with Gino, Ross and Joe at different times. I am in touch with Joe more often than Gino.

I am not sure if Joe is aware of this thread, but I will send him the link.
Old 8th September 2013
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I am not sure if Joe is aware of this thread, but I will send him the link.
Thanks SlickBackRic,
Small connected world we live in.
Old 8th September 2013
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It would be nice to find out what the exact vox chain was on the old stuff (as well as the new, also).
Some time ago I had read that a C12 & Manley Gold had been used at some point.
And on the newer there's an album with a mic modified by Klaus H.
Old 19th September 2016
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Hi guys,
I don't know much about Gino, but there has been some mention here about Ron Capone...Sig was it at Westwind or Westlake Audio? I did a bunch if sessions (on bass) with Ron at Westlake. He would start every take with "Roll 'em Pete!"
Loved that gentleman!
Tim Fleming
Old 19th September 2016
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Never worked with Gino as an engineer but I did play with him very briefly and I think it's a pretty good story.

I was doing a one man band single at a Mexican restaurant and some friends of mine came in with a friend of theirs who, on a break, started telling me about Gino and how he was good friends with him - blah blah blah. Seemed like total BS to me but he asked for a card and told me Gino was putting a band together for a Canadian and European tour. Would I be interested? What the hay I thought. Sure. Forgot about it by the time I got home that night.

About a month later, I got home from the gig, phone rings, and who is it but Gino himself! I about crapped myself. (First though, I thought someone was playing a joke on me and I was like, "Who is this really?")

In our conversation he said that his friend John had spoken highly of me and he went on to tell me he was in fact assembling a band for a tour. Too bad I was in Atlanta and he was in L.A.

Quick thinking on my part. "Well, as a matter of fact, I am going to be in L.A. in a few weeks. Maybe we could meet then." Gino said that would be great. Call him and let him know when I was coming and we would set up an audition. (The spot was for keyboard bass and sax.)

As soon as I got off the phone I made plans for the trip and went out to L.A., did the audition. The studio was in Agoura Hills in a "middle of nowhere" sort of place. We ran through a few of his songs, and then he had me sing a few to check vocals etc., then I played sax along with some tracks they had.

Gino was like some sort of metaphysical zen master mystic in conversation. All proverbs and philosophical sayings. Kinda weird. His brother Joe was the most down to earth guy you'd ever want to meet and was talking to someone about his lawn mower problem he was having.

Joe told me to try and get Gino to tell me about the time they were in Peru and he got up from the table at lunch, walked up a mountain in his sandals and was gone for three days. Came back and told Joe he had had an enlightening spiritual experience. Three days, just the clothes on his back. . . .

At one point there was a break during the audition and Joe was reading Keyboard magazine. There was an article and an ad for a new Roland keyboard. He said to Gino he'd like to check it out and then got on the phone with somebody. The new keyboard was dropped off a couple hours later by a Roland rep. Impressive.

We finished up and Gino said they had ten more L.A. guys to hear and he would let me know something. At this point I'm figuring well it was a pretty cool once in a lifetime opportunity and just cool as hell to meet him and hang out for a while.

I remembered driving my dad's old Mercury to high school and hearing "Mama Coco" on the radio and thinking it was the coolest sounding thing. It was very surreal to to meet him and audition.

About a month later, I get home from a gig at the Mexican joint and the phone rings again. "Hi Bill, this is Gino. Let me tell you what songs we're gonna be dong on the tour."

I was very calm and said, "Cool." Inside I was jumping out of my skin.

A few weeks later I'm in L.A. for rehearsal, having canceled all my Atlanta gigs.

The drummer's name was Vito. There was Italian slang bouncing all over the place.

Gino is driving the oldest clunkiest giant Dodge 4x4 truck when we go to lunch the first day. This thing has shag carpet and little tassled things hanging down from all the windows. It's a dirty coffee brown color and covered in mud. An ugly bouncy loud and smokey truck. I was amazed. I did not know rock stars drove stuff like this.

We get to the cafe and the waitress is taking drink orders. Gino says, "Double decaf iced cappuccino." Joe says, "Double decaf iced cappuccino." Vito says, "Double decaf iced cappuccino." I think I said "Sprite." I never felt less Italian than that day! (I have no Italian in me what so ever.) Right then I knew I was not a Beatle.

On Thursday of the first week, we go to lunch and Vito is freaking out. He says, " I can't do it Gino. I know it's ridiculous, it's been my life's dream to play in this band but I miss my wife and kids. My life is ****." Gino says, and I am not kidding or magnifying the story in any way, "A wise man once said, when life is ****, you must become a fly." (I was like what the?)

I show up for rehearsal on Friday and learn Vito has shipped back to Canada and dropped out of the tour.

Monday and Tuesday we start auditioning drummers including the guy who played on Brother to Brother! Mark Craney! But he had been really sick and did not look well on that day and his drumming was just not happening. I could not believe it was the same guy. Sad.

Later Tuesday afternoon there is talk that the tour is already $85,000 over budget! We hadn't even gotten on the road yet! Not only that but the pay for rehearsal will be less than what it was supposed to be and the actual pay for the tour will be closer to what the rehearsals were supposed to pay. Originally it was supposed to be $400 per week for rehearsals, $900 per week for touring plus a per diem of $25.

Turns out I will be knocked down to $200 per week for rehearsals and $400 per touring week with no per diem. This is looking a lot less attractive but still, it's Gino Friggin Vannelli! Also it was in 1990 or so - money went a lot further then of course.

Wednesday I show up for rehearsal and Gino says, "Bill I need to talk to you." We go out in the hall and he says I am not cutting it and they are sending me home. My stomach sinks. I think of all my musician friends and well wishers back in Atlanta and the chance to get out of the crappy bar gigs I had been doing and everything now going up in smoke.

Turns out I would go back home and land a house gig that paid more than the tour would and later find out that I was headed for a divorce. With a one year old son caught in the middle.

Later on when Gino came through Atlanta, (I didn't go), friends told me the keyboard bass spot had been eliminated. The parts had been sequenced and a roadie came out and played sax on a couple numbers.

The next album did not do well and the tour was not well attended. Still it was a kick! My brush with greatness!
Mark was a friend. So sad what happened to him. In his day, he was one of the best drummers in rock and roll, period.
Old 21st September 2016
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Hi guys,
I don't know much about Gino, but there has been some mention here about Ron Capone...Sig was it at Westwind or Westlake Audio? I did a bunch if sessions (on bass) with Ron at Westlake. He would start every take with "Roll 'em Pete!"
Loved that gentleman!
Tim Fleming
I miss Ronnie...... One of the great unsung engineers of our time.
Old 21st September 2016
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Had the pleasure of working with Mark Craney. What a talent.
Old 22nd September 2016
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Had the pleasure of working with Mark Craney. What a talent.
Great drummer!

One of my favorite drum sounds ever is that of Brother to Brother's title track.

As I understand it (even though he was right-handed), he played a left-handed kit with left-handed traditional grip.
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Old 22nd September 2016
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Back in [1978-9?] I saw him at a U of Miami Jazz/Drum Forum ... there, He played most of the Bro2Bro album on my buddy's kit. No one else, just drums.

Jaw-dropping ... I could 'hear' the entire band in my head JUST from him playing. From what I recall, He set-up with a 'Right' config ... but mixed Left/Right hand effortlessly. Basically .... phenomenal. Somewhere in my storage archives I have the recording. [somewhere]

In talking with him, he had no knowledge on 'how' they got that drum sound, but said, everyone [including Engineers] where at rehearsal. Everything recorded. Copies to all players to study. Intense/compact schedule [2 weeks?]. Then into the recording session.

As to the sound [particularly the Toms], they have the sound of single head, Mic'd from the [underneath] bottom.
Old 17th January 2017
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Back in [1978-9?] I saw him at a U of Miami Jazz/Drum Forum ... there, He played most of the Bro2Bro album on my buddy's kit. No one else, just drums.

Jaw-dropping ... I could 'hear' the entire band in my head JUST from him playing. From what I recall, He set-up with a 'Right' config ... but mixed Left/Right hand effortlessly. Basically .... phenomenal. Somewhere in my storage archives I have the recording. [somewhere]

In talking with him, he had no knowledge on 'how' they got that drum sound, but said, everyone [including Engineers] where at rehearsal. Everything recorded. Copies to all players to study. Intense/compact schedule [2 weeks?]. Then into the recording session.

As to the sound [particularly the Toms], they have the sound of single head, Mic'd from the [underneath] bottom.
Wow!!! Yes, would love to hear that recording!!! Do try to locate and share!!!

Jeff
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