Pacific Research and Engineering Consoles... Anyone?
Old 3rd March 2010
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Pacific Research and Engineering Consoles... Anyone?

I have found very little about PR&E and I wanted to see if anyone had heard/used one of these.

We just recently picked up a Production Mixer 28 for our studio and hooked it up this weekend. It's a broadcast console that we are planning to be using as a summing mixer. We've messed around with it a little bit this weekend and we are please with our initial impressions. It has 3 mono preamp module channels with EQ in it (we haven't gotten a chance to track with). 8 Stereo Line in Modules with EQ. Master buss and studio and control room modules as well as some other telco stuff we'll probably never use.

We got a great deal on this from someone on craigslist, and as i've said we are very please with our initial impressions.

I'm just curious to see if anyone has worked on one of these before.
Old 3rd March 2010
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nobody, huh? that's what i figured. bump anyway?
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We have a few of these in the radio studios I work in. I tried searching for info on them a while back, but didn't have much luck either... Maybe someone in the know can chime in??
Old 18th June 2011
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Pacific Recorders were the absolute standard for radio station consoles back in the day, and have many adherents even now. Great for a live on-air show. There's a guy who renovates them...I forget his name.
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Great sounding desks. I've done tech work on a handful of them over the last 15 years. Bulletproof. Sound great. Jensen transformers on most of them, crappy op amps on some, good ones on others. PR&E (Pacific Recorders & Engineering) was out of Carlsbad, CA. They were bought by Harris Broadcast back in the early 2000's. I own 5 of the last ABX consoles produced out of Carlsbad. Mr. Bob Moore at www.moretronix.com is the guy that you want to be nice to. He's a great guy, and is uber helpful for parts, tools and even some calibration gear. They're not Ward Beck, nor are they API. They sit, IMHO, somewhere in between API, Ward Beck and older Auditronics desks. The main focus of these desks were to control a radio broadcast. They've got more contact closures and relays than you'll ever need. They also don't have many bells or whistles audio wise. Two inputs per channel (A or B), clean mic pre, nice fader, couple of aux sends, and a big red ON/OFF button. The power supplies are massive. Like boat anchor massive. This was to dissipate heat without using fans, and the supply is usually located fairly close to the console, witch meant fairly close to the operator talking on the air. The volume pots alone on the monitor section run a couple hundred bucks to replace from P&G. In fact, most of the signal path runs through P&G faders or pots. The output amps would occasionally blow up, but they're easy to fix. The consoles are also easy to align, but you need to have the manual, a decent tone generator and a good meter. Back panel is all molex. ALL molex. get to know that method of wiring. It's easy once you master the basic crimp connectors. Don't touch the power input rails. They're exposed screw terminals and will shock the bejezus out of you if you're not careful. The safety covers almost ALWAYS got torn off. They are designed to fit into a cut-out table top counter of some kind. I don't know if I've ever seen one on a PR&E made stand. All the meters were Sifam, I believe the exact same meter as used in SSL G and E series desks. This is all top of mind, so feel free to correct me if you need to. I've got a pile of ABX parts, and some other odds and ends if you need them. I've also got a couple of manuals, but, only for the AMX and ABX desk. Not the production desks or some of the new fangled 'pre digital' desks they did. Those were of questionable quality. ABX, AMX, BMX and RMX are the bulletproof ones. The rest are serviceable, but were intended for lower budget operations. Not bad, but not what people generally mean when they refer to "PR&E" or "Pacific Recorders" consoles.
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I've got a pile of ABX parts, and some other odds and ends if you need them. I've also got a couple of manuals, but, only for the AMX and ABX desk.
I just fluked into a Pacific Recorders ABX 34, ...I realize this is an older post- but very curious if any of you are still out there?....I'm attempting to re-purpose this as a recording/mixing console ( I'm already wrist-deep in a recap....)
I'm trying to locate some of the EQ and/or Voice processor modules, Parts, bits,(substitutes for MJE181's?) advice? Feel free to PM or email....!
anyone? anyone?
Thanks!
Old 20th February 2013
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Came across a stereo input module. Interrested in any schematics, pinouts of the edge connectors, voltage requirements, manual, service manual, anything that would help me to test the input module and see if it's worth racking.

The module is a part# 45-130G

Thanks!
Old 19th September 2014
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Hey AudioHipster Dawt com here, we bought NPR studio 4 B from NPR in DC, and for some reason the really nice people at NPR thought we received one of these ABX consoles and sent us the left over in stock replacement modules & manuals... some new or like new about 5 large boxes... i thought they were for the Studer D950S.. anywho these are impressive looking channels... any who that would be interested in the schematics or the whole lot of the ABX replacement channels and large manuals... feel free to contact us... or if someone has a ABX console near Atlanta GA... at the right price AudioHipster would be interested in it. We currently have a D&R 4000 MKII and a Studer 950S surround desk. Man just looking at the ABX modules it swamps most UK consoles in quality parts and build... we are impressed enough to try one, our last console was a Amek 56 CH Recall RN, sold to Studio Live in FL. David is a super nice and amazing engineer, he said he liked the sound of the RN better then the J9000 SSL. Also very sorry we have not had time to talk about or promote our new AudioHipster AH-04 Stereo Ribbon... it rubs vagina's with the best... Soon we promise. Cheers Doyen
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From the thread Recall RN in studio? on 7th Jul 2010

we at AudioHipster recording in GA, have the 56 ch Recall RN only 6 RN channels and 8 stereo channels, the rest are the Greg Langley channels, the sound is fantastic, has compression and gates to option on every channel, this came from Maryland Sound, in a hydraulic piano case and lots of extra channels including the master buss... has worked very good in the studio, the only maintain issues we have had is cleaning the insert jacks on some of the channels... and Dave Rochester of Technical Audio Services has been a big help, super nice guy. anywho i think it would be a great desk for any studio. if anyone is interested in this one give
Old 19th September 2014
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Hey AudioHipster Dawt com here, we bought NPR studio 4 B from NPR in DC, and for some reason the really nice people at NPR thought we received one of these ABX consoles and sent us the left over in stock replacement modules & manuals... some new or like new about 5 large boxes... i thought they were for the Studer D950S.. anywho these are impressive looking channels... any who that would be interested in the schematics or the whole lot of the ABX replacement channels and large manuals... feel free to contact us... or if someone has a ABX console near Atlanta GA... at the right price AudioHipster would be interested in it. We currently have a D&R 4000 MKII and a Studer 950S surround desk. Man just looking at the ABX modules it swamps most UK consoles in quality parts and build... we are impressed enough to try one, our last console was a Amek 56 CH Recall RN, sold to Studio Live in FL. David is a super nice and amazing engineer, he said he liked the sound of the RN better then the J9000 SSL. Also very sorry we have not had time to talk about or promote our new AudioHipster AH-04 Stereo Ribbon... it rubs vagina's with the best... Soon we promise. Cheers Doyen
Old 17th November 2014
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OH PLEEEEEEEASE! Can anyone help me with a manual for an AMX?
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