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James Morisson Vocal Chain?
Old 26th February 2010
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James Morisson Vocal Chain?

for either album... sounds absolutely incredible. There was another thread asking this, but nothing was established. possibly an elam 251, and a ton of nice vintage gear... doesnt let us know much.

Even if you dont know the signal chain used for james morrison...
say you are recording someone who sounds like him tonally and texturally... what chain combo's mic/pre/plugins might you reccomend to compliment and accentuate those vocal qualities?

u47 sound.. more than u87, or?
neve-ish pre sound or api-type pre.. or more sterile?

god-bless-ya!
Old 26th February 2010
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Old 26th February 2010
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There was a classic VH! show about the Doors. Why not find the engineer or producer and do a little research. Here is what I found in a minute.
THE DOORS; Producer: Paul Rothchild; Engineeer: Bruce Botnick

........................................, ^ (They would know) ^

@[email protected]
... GT.
Old 26th February 2010
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i think he means james and not jim....
Old 26th February 2010
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ya im talking about James Morrison. Not Jim Morrison.
This IS doing a little research....

Not that big a deal... looking to see if perhaps anyone knew about that, and/or budget ways to achieve a sound like that.... Apparently he used.... "really good gear..." any other comments?
Old 26th February 2010
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you could probably use a number of items to achieve this sound.

with out being offensive to any fans, which is not my intention.
there isn't really anything special here,

a decent mic and room should do it.
Old 26th February 2010
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^ yes but there is a lovely smooth saturation/overdriven quality to the vox on the latest one - So its not just the mic/room/vocalist.

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Old 26th February 2010
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ya im talking about James Morrison. Not Jim Morrison.
This IS doing a little research....

Not that big a deal... looking to see if perhaps anyone knew about that, and/or budget ways to achieve a sound like that.... Apparently he used.... "really good gear..." any other comments?
who is credited as the engineer?
Old 26th February 2010
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Songs for You, Truths for Me - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there's quite a few people involved... No mention of who mixed it though.

Martin Terefe has a great studio... Trident desk and some great outboard and mics

Martin Terefe.com - The Official Website Of Martin Terefe
Old 26th February 2010
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"^ yes but there is a lovely smooth saturation/overdriven quality to the vox on the latest one - So its not just the mic/room/vocalist."

Exactly, it sounds fantastic don't it!

"there's quite a few people involved... No mention of who mixed it though.

Marti Terefe has a great studio... Trident desk and some great outboard and mics"

Thanks blast.... not trying to be rude... but again, 'probly using pretty good gear' is not at all what im asking about....

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I dont care who mixed it... i thought it worth a shot to ask and maybe be lucky enough to hear from someone on the production crew or knew about the equipment used. BUT, as indicated, im looking for some thoughts from you guys if you were working with a vocalist with a similar tone, timbre, and texture... any help?
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Old 27th February 2010
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Old 27th February 2010
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Noo-body has NE tips, info or friendly advice to share?

is vocal recording, gear, and tracking techniques.. not interesting... or am i... not apart of "the community" yet....
Old 27th February 2010
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Checking out "The only night" - smooth sound, nice top end, solid midrange.

His voice is very smooth, so try something that will bring out detail.

If it was me I'd probably use something like a 251 (which I haven't used - just going by the descriptions i've read) for a smooth airy detailed sound...

or maybe a C12A - which I have used - lovely top end.

I'd probably put it into a valve preamp like a Thermionic Culture Earlybird. That is an amazing "shiny sounding" preamp - although you'd probably want to have more EQ points available to tweak.

Telefunken pres sound great for fatness but you'd prob need an EQ after it

Maybe stick it through a high end valve compressor to get some of that nice smooth saturation with detail (although to my ears the sound is "hi-fi", so perhaps a clean comp would be the way to go) - The Thermionic Culture Phoenix is lovely

-

PS - drop Martin Terefe a line!
Old 27th February 2010
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Who is James Morrison? Never mind, I'll google.....

Not bad, at least he doesn't use Autotune.....

I'd think maybe an ELA M251.....
Old 1st March 2010
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Thanks Blast9!!

appreciate your reccomendations!

i was thinking that the detailed, emphasized midrange was brought out with a u47 or the like, and perhaps some overdriven tube saturation from a nice tube comp.
Old 24th September 2012
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A bit late But just saw this thread.

I engineered several songs on his first album ( Undiscovered) that Martin Terefe produced at Kensaltown Studios.
On most of that we used a vintage Telefunken ELAM251 - Neve 33122 mic pre - blackface 1176

James has an amazing voice so that makes it kindof easy
Old 26th September 2012
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James does have a pretty amazing voice...

Worked with him in a live recording situation for a radio station out here in LA. He was on a Shure KSM9 and I put him through a Vac Rac mic pre. A bit of compression and EQ on a Yamaha O1V console and we were set. No issues getting a good vocal sound for him.

--Ben
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