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Do a compressor affect the sound even when the threshold is not triggerd? Dynamics Processors (HW)
Old 21st January 2010
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Do a compressor affect the sound even when the threshold is not triggerd?

Ok, so i like my mic(Studio Project C-1), my preamp(Groove Tubes The Brick) and i now need a compressor to protect the perfect take to be scrapped by some occasional peak on my sound card due to popping,or too much emotion from an inexperimented singer,wich are the ones i record on my computer home studio.

I am not looking for changing too much the dynamics of the vocal or adding color, as i prefer plug-in i can experiment with after recording.

Used in this maner, do i realy need a more expensive compressor, or would something around $100 like the Presonus Comp16 do the job?

The general question could be: do a compressor affect the sound even when the threshold is not triggerd?

Thanks!
Old 21st January 2010
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If you want a cheap compressor that doesn't mess with the tone, seek out a used Aphex 651. I got all three of mine for $100. I think they are amazing for the money, and if you send it out to Jim Williams @ Audio Upgrades it will probably become your favorite compressor.
Old 21st January 2010
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Don't track so hot. At 24bit you have 144dB of dynamic range.

Try tracking so that you peak between -18 and -21 dB. Your DACs will thank you for it.
Old 21st January 2010
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The general question could be: do a compressor affect the sound even when the threshold is not triggerd?
Yes. Try using a good vintage plugin set at 1:1 and check it out.

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Don't track so hot. At 24bit you have 144dB of dynamic range.

Try tracking so that you peak between -18 and -21 dB. Your DACs will thank you for it.
Id say just keep it around -6db, thats the threshold for distortion on most converters. When you track to "quiet" you end up using makeup gain on the compressors, eqs, etc, which raises your noisefloor 12 db when you could have just tracked it at -6 in the first place.
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Old 21st January 2010
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Id say just keep it around -6db, thats the threshold for distortion on most converters. When you track to "quiet" you end up using makeup gain on the compressors, eqs, etc, which raises your noisefloor 12 db when you could have just tracked it at -6 in the first place.My 2c
Really? What decent A/D converter distorts at 6 dB headroom? I'd probably like to return that equipment as faulty... Or am I missing something (sure if you track RMS values to -6 you'll have peaks over 0 dBFS, but I don't usually measure RMS when tracking)?
Old 21st January 2010
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Track with a good outboard compressor. It will give you more flexibility in the long run to "experiment" with plugins. Get it sounding awesome when you record it, and then fine tune it (or squash the **** out of it) later to get it to fit in the mix. Why on earth would you want to record something that wasn't awesome? Yeah yeah, money, blah fvckity blah...

Great performances come with great musicians with great headphone mixes, which come from great signal paths. If you have to compress or eq the **** out of something during mix, you're not giving the artist what they need to make a great performance.

Oh, and if you're clipping your inputs, the singer either has the dynamic range of Pavarotti on crystal meth, your you're recording too hot. Turn the **** down. You said you have plugins, turn the **** up later.
Old 21st January 2010
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Thanks all.
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