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Old 9th November 2009
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Lost in the mic jungle... Help me please...

Hi everybody, here is a few question from France,
I'm lost in the microphone jungle... There's so many of them...
I'm looking for more than one month to choose the best for me but I need advice, guys and girls... I hope you will help me...
Big Thanks in anticipation...


• At first let's say that I've got a Universal Audio LA 610 preamp, that might be interesting to know which microphone match better whith this gear... I'm looking for a very good home-studio neutral microphone for all purposes, voices and instruments of course... omni is sufficient...

• Secondly I'm looking for a nearly 550 $ maximum microphone.

Through several and billion technical web comparative articles, I can't decide myself before ask all of you my troubles...
Here's some choices I 'm really interresting in... Can you guide me??

I wonder between FET or TUBE microphone but with the LA 610 use,
I'm scared that the TUBE mics will be too much HOT...
Would it be more accurate to choice a good FET model?

FET:
+ AKG C 214 (perhaps not linear) (is it sound like the 414? since i only need omni?)
+ AT 4033 <-
+ AT 4040 I
+ AT 4047 I <-- lost in the AT Jungle, wich is a good compromise? )
+ AT 4050 I
+ AT 4060 <-
+ MXL V67
+ Shure KSM 32 (a bit expensive for me)
+ Shure SM 7b (is it a standart studio voice-instru use?)


TUBE:
+ MXL V69 Mogami (do you know this 2 MXL model?)
+ MXL V69 M
+ T Bone STC 2000 (some people say it's terrific ??)
+ SE Electronics 2200T (did anyone hear and test this one??)
+ Studio Projects TB1

PLease give me ideas before my brain explose,
I hope to have several answers...

Million thanks and kisses.... Musically...
Phil
Old 9th November 2009
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i would say at 4047 or 4050 for me, but i didn't test all the ones you listed. The SM7 is also very good but dynamic (wich could be a disadvantage but isn't necesairy so)
Old 9th November 2009
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Anybody else please,
I Make a small mystake, it's a cardoid mic I'm looking for not an omni...

Greets
Old 9th November 2009
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I agree that the 4050, and the 4047 would be good to take home and try in your studio to see if it is your vibe. You may also look at a used AKG 414.
Old 9th November 2009
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I would also caution that the 610 doesn't have the most headroom, and additionally does have a rather thick sound of its own. This steers me away from using too thick sounding a mic when I go for that pre. I would not go for a SM7 as I find the amount gain they need not particularly suited towards the 610.

I would agree with paul999 on mic choices.
Old 9th November 2009
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Phil, in that price range for an all purpose cardioid mic on voice and acoustic sources I still think the Oktava MK-105 is a clear winner. Hard to find that much rich midrange sound as well as air and depth delivered in this price range.

War
Old 9th November 2009
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Used 414 (B-ULS)
AT4050
then:
AT4033

AT4047 has pushed mids/upper mids - but can be great...

C214, don't know about it, but I'd be suspicious about the claims.
SM7 is not neutral, needs lots of gain, but takes EQ well, tight pattern. Versatile for a single pattern mic.

Omni may be sufficient, but your room will factor-in more to the sound.
Tube mics won't be "hot", will have more self noise, probably not neutral, esp. with a tube pre.
Old 9th November 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philzz View Post
Hi everybody, here is a few question from France,
I'm lost in the microphone jungle... There's so many of them...
I'm looking for more than one month to choose the best for me but I need advice, guys and girls... I hope you will help me...
Big Thanks in anticipation...


• At first let's say that I've got a Universal Audio LA 610 preamp, that might be interesting to know which microphone match better whith this gear... I'm looking for a very good home-studio neutral microphone for all purposes, voices and instruments of course... omni is sufficient...

• Secondly I'm looking for a nearly 550 $ maximum microphone.

Through several and billion technical web comparative articles, I can't decide myself before ask all of you my troubles...
Here's some choices I 'm really interresting in... Can you guide me??

I wonder between FET or TUBE microphone but with the LA 610 use,
I'm scared that the TUBE mics will be too much HOT...
Would it be more accurate to choice a good FET model?

FET:
+ AKG C 214 (perhaps not linear) (is it sound like the 414? since i only need omni?)
+ AT 4033 <-
+ AT 4040 I
+ AT 4047 I <-- lost in the AT Jungle, wich is a good compromise? )
+ AT 4050 I
+ AT 4060 <-
+ MXL V67
+ Shure KSM 32 (a bit expensive for me)
+ Shure SM 7b (is it a standart studio voice-instru use?)


TUBE:
+ MXL V69 Mogami (do you know this 2 MXL model?)
+ MXL V69 M
+ T Bone STC 2000 (some people say it's terrific ??)
+ SE Electronics 2200T (did anyone hear and test this one??)
+ Studio Projects TB1

PLease give me ideas before my brain explose,
I hope to have several answers...

Million thanks and kisses.... Musically...
Phil
Look for a used Sennheiser MD441. Swiss army knife mic, sounds fabulous on many many things. Decent transient response for a condenser. Very tight pattern, perfect for less than perfect rooms. It'll sound great with the 610. Enjoy and have fun with it.
Old 9th November 2009
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Quote:
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Look for a used Sennheiser MD441. Swiss army knife mic, sounds fabulous on many many things.
Amen
Old 9th November 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camus View Post
Look for a used Sennheiser MD441. Swiss army knife mic, sounds fabulous on many many things. Decent transient response for a condenser.
- For a dynamic...
Old 9th November 2009
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Quote:
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- For a dynamic...
whoops... heh
Old 9th November 2009
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Embarassing for camus yes, but still a great mic choice none the less.
Old 9th November 2009
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Well, I didn't intend to cause embarrassment - a simple mistake, just correcting "for the record".
Old 10th November 2009
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Well a few ideas from good and friendly gearslutzers... big thanks...
Can you give me little more advices please?

So resume: looking for a cardioïde microphone for general purposes,
it will work with the UA LA 610 max 550 $

My corrected opinion/hesitation:

FET:
+ AT 4047
+ AT 4050
+ AT 4060
+ MXL V67
+ Shure KSM 32 + Oktava MK 105 + Sennheiser MD 441

TUBE:
+ MXL V69 Mogami (do you know this 2 MXL model?)
+ MXL V69 M
+ T Bone STC 2000 (some people say it's terrific ??)
+ SE Electronics 2200T (did anyone hear and test this new one??)
+ Studio Projects TB1

Nobody told me about the above tube section choice?
Are they so disappointed? will it be too much tuby sound with the LA610?
What about the good Shure KSM 32?


••> Have you got more ideas/critics/personnal choices?
Billion thanks...
Greets from North of France (Sunny day 10°C (50°F))
Old 10th November 2009
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I've never found the LA-610 "headroom" issue to really be a problem. And FWIW that is after two years of use in my commercial studio with all sorts of mics.

At that price point i would recommend the AT4047/4050 and Shure KSM32. Both are outstanding performers for the money. And no, the AKG C214 does not sound like any C414 i have owned/used.

Oh, and the LA-610 would work well with any of those mics, so dont worry so much about that.
Old 10th November 2009
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AT 4050 - it's a very good all round utility mic.
Old 10th November 2009
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Thanks again for all ...

Friendly gearslutzers... a little more advices please?

So resume: still looking for a cardioïde microphone for general purposes, it will work with the UA LA 610 max 550 $

My corrected opinion/hesitation:

FET:
+ AT 4047
+ AT 4050
+ Shure KSM 32
+ Oktava MK 105


Is anybody know the Oktava MK 105? For some gear addict, it seem to be softer and warmer than AT 4047/50 series...

Can someone can compare AT 47/50 series to Shure KSM 32?

Nobobody still told me about the above tube section choice?
Are they so disappointed? will it be too much tuby sound with the LA610?


••> Have you got more ideas/critics/personnal choices?
Again Billion thanks...
Greets from North of France (Sunny day 10°C (50°F))
Old 10th November 2009
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Is anyone can tell me something??
A few advices more please, and I promise to go to sleep...
Thanks in anticipation... Bye
Old 10th November 2009
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I would say this list is narrowed enough. Time to go do some testing on these 4 mic's.
Old 10th November 2009
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Did someone test the SE Electronics Z3300A??
It seem to be a good value too?? gREETS
Old 10th November 2009
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I use the 4033 in stereo config with an MK-012 so often. Woodwinds, AC guitars, hand percussion and effects percussion. The 4033 can stand in as an OH or room mic when necessary. The 4033 is just darn versatile...the 4050 is even "better" with a sonic signature recognized in so many recordings. Both are outstanding utility mics.

At the same time you can't lose having an 4047 around or a 414 or a KSM32. Tough choices my friend but at least you know that with a list like that, no matter what choice you make, your money will be spent wisely.
Old 10th November 2009
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Another option you may want to consider: Buy an Oaktava Mk 012 and buy an additional capsule like the Mk 101 (vintage voiced) or an Mk 102 (more modern). Will give you great sound/low cost/diversity of small AND large capsule!
Old 10th November 2009
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thumbsupThat's a good idea Markus Stock,
In fact, I'm just actually looking to this on Oktava mod site, that seem very interresting...

Does anybody can recommand me the Michael Joly mod and work on this legend microphone??
Can we trust such modifications??

Thanks for answers, Guys and Girls (not a lot for the moment..., wake up please)

Bye Bye
Old 18th November 2009
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Did someone test the SE Electronics Z3300A??
It seem to be a good value too?? gREETS
I have 2 of the se Z3300a's and for the price they are pretty good allrounder mic, I quite often use them for toms, acoustic/electric guitars as well as vocalists with a deeper vocal range. (As you can see, quite a broad range of instruments) Coupled with my trusty Langevin DVC for vox, they have served me well to this day.
Old 18th November 2009
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AT 4047 is a nice microphone that you can both record voice and acoustic instruments. It's a little pricey but nice vibe overall. I bought one for $350 used in perfect condition.
Old 18th November 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philzz View Post
thumbsupThat's a good idea Markus Stock,
In fact, I'm just actually looking to this on Oktava mod site, that seem very interresting...

Does anybody can recommand me the Michael Joly mod and work on this legend microphone??
Can we trust such modifications??

Thanks for answers, Guys and Girls (not a lot for the moment..., wake up please)

Bye Bye
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