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What about patchbays ? Virtual Instrument Plugins
Old 7th September 2005
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You say they sell the replacements? I could not find them anywhere on their site. I would of course like to just buy replacements...any help on how you found yours?
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daniel
I had my dealer order them, but first, I sent an email to Neutrik asking for the part numbers since they weren't on the web page. Armed with that info, I went into the shop, and about a week later, I had 15 insert (send/receive) cards. I think they were about US$4.00 each.
Old 7th September 2005
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Emailing them right now..thanks man
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Old 7th September 2005
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i don't really get it:
in the end, is it true that a patch bay will degrade signal quality a bit?
is it ultimately better (just in terms of sound) to plug XLR's in and out of outboard pieces, however inconvenient it may be...
Old 7th September 2005
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Tehcnically speaking it is always sonically more accurate to wire gear directly to one another but it is also an enormous PITA to work that way. I have a couple of racks rammed full of gear and I shudder to think about getting back behind my racks to switch my connections around. Patch Bays essentially allow for higher levels of productivity and flexibility which is essential in busier commercial studios.

I personally have 2 TT/Bantamn 96 point patchbays with EDAC connections. Brand new they will set you back about $1300 - $1400. I waited patiently on Ebay and got my first patchbay for $150 and the second one for $300. The wiring can be expensive for these things especially if you have to hire a tech to change some of the patch bay wiring internally which is sometimes necessary if you want to have some points normalled.

You can find basic 90 PIN EDAC cables for about $100-$150, you can also have them made for a little more. On a 96 PT bay with EDACS connections you will need 4 cables. The TT cables can be pricey but keep an eye open on ebay for some great deals. Hope that helps.
Old 7th September 2005
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Originally Posted by cl516
i don't really get it:
in the end, is it true that a patch bay will degrade signal quality a bit?
is it ultimately better (just in terms of sound) to plug XLR's in and out of outboard pieces, however inconvenient it may be...
Yup...but at a certain point your splitting hairs.

Imagine if you will, a 300-400 point patchbay, which is about average for a room with an analog console, a multitrack or two and a fair amount of outboard. Who wants to crawl behind the gear and deal with the spaghetti from that?

That's why it's mondo important to not skip on the quality of the connections and cabling in your studio. They're all links in the chain and one crappy connector or bunk piece of Hosed cable can ruin your tone and your day.

With at least 30-40 patches on a small session I'll glady trade a little tone for the convenience of having 400 seperate I/O's in front of me rather then having a few hundered individual cables floating around the room.
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