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Biggest sounding Pre in the market.
Old 24th August 2005
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Biggest sounding Pre in the market.

I need something huge. Please, your votes.

1173, Wunder, API, Great River…which one???

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Old 24th August 2005
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Old 24th August 2005
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Huge in what way?

Trafo sound? Tube sound? Clean sound?


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I think anyone who owns a 1073 never worries about their sound not being big enough.
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one of the largest most opulent preamps i've heard is the d.w. fearn vt-2.
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Old 24th August 2005
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Old 24th August 2005
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Originally Posted by Sounds Great
What does "big" mean?



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Old 24th August 2005
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Damn! What the hell is that?

With big sounding I mean everything. I want to know the pre you pick when you want something to sound huge (like a bass, a voice, or whatever). In my case, I have a new API 3124+. For me it sounds agressive but not huge (I said for me,Ok). I want to have nice partner for it.

But please, keep going, don't stop to analize everything I say. I just want to know your picks.


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Old 24th August 2005
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sebatron vmp-2000e or 4000e is a great big sounding preamp for bass or vocals. a recent purchase for me has been the buzz audio pre for acoustic guitar which i love but i can't say it sounds big but more in your face aggresive. DW fearn if you've got the bucks to spend.
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Fearn VT-2. Mercury M76.
Have you compared those two?

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Old 24th August 2005
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I've heard the Fearn. But not the M76 (Marquette's finishing his first units within the month). I own a V-72 and had numerous conversations with Marquette about the sound quality. He said it is based on the Telefunken V76m, which I have heard.
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D.W Fearn VT-2, in a large, rich, warm and opulent way.... thumbsup thumbsup

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Not sure about the "biggest" sounding pre. What is the biggest sounding acoustic guitar? Who has the biggest voice?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by insomnio
I need something huge. Please, your votes.

1173, Wunder, API, Great River…which one???

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... if FAT, FULL and UPFRONT describes the term BIG for you

than I'd say the V-series pres (V72, V76, V77, V78...)

I own a pair of old siemens V78 and they sound BIG...

sometimes to BIG


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Old 24th August 2005
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The one with a great EQ behind it and a great big sounding source in front of it.

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Old 25th August 2005
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Would you all stop been cynical? Is that possible in this forum?
You know what I mean, please just write your pick if you have one.



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Old 25th August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreas G
... if FAT, FULL and UPFRONT describes the term BIG for you

than I'd say the V-series pres (V72, V76, V77, V78...)

I own a pair of old siemens V78 and they sound BIG...

sometimes to BIG


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What about TAB-Funkenwerk as clone. Is it close?

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Old 25th August 2005
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If you're serous, would call Vintage King and arrange a demo of this.
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Old 25th August 2005
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It may just be because it was so big physcially, but the ViPre seemed to be huge when I used it, especially driven a little hard and a slow rise time. It was also flexible, though, and I was able to get fairly clean sounds out of it as well.

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Old 25th August 2005
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Gordon. No question for me.

I've compared a lot of different designs. Tube/Transformer preamps are nice. They add texture. And they soften and blend the sound.

Ultimate clarity is the biggest sound to me. The Gordons have space around the notes, very three dimensional. 2 Megohm impedance, so no mic loading at all.

But lots of things contribute to a big sound in a mix, mic pre is only one of them.

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Old 25th August 2005
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Gordon. No question for me.

I've compared a lot of different designs. Tube/Transformer preamps are nice. They add texture. And they soften and blend the sound.

Ultimate clarity is the biggest sound to me. The Gordons have space around the notes, very three dimensional. 2 Megohm impedance, so no mic loading at all.

But lots of things contribute to a big sound in a mix, mic pre is only one of them.

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Old 25th August 2005
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What about TAB-Funkenwerk as clone. Is it close?

I
Sorry, I haven't tried TAB-Funkenwerk pres. But in your case I would definitely add them to your "check it out list".

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Old 25th August 2005
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the biggest sounding pre is the arrangement.


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Old 25th August 2005
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Originally Posted by insomnio
I need something huge. Please, your votes.

1173, Wunder, API, Great River…which one???

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Goes to your dealer.

Tests the Fairman & Jambor TMA -real symmetrical Tube Preqamp.

The combination microphone, instrument, Preamp and AD is important.
But the TMA is the most most transparent, clearest and purest Preamp.

If you takes on a voice or Drum does not stand, it plastic and touchable and as coming from that nothing. To describe not with words. It really hears...

my personal recommendation.
warmly however extremely firm bass, very firm in the middle and finest radiation.
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Which are the fastet running shoes?

The ones used by the fastest runner.

As a guitar player, I've learned to dig smaller sounds. It practically always makes for a better mix.

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Old 25th August 2005
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Who has the biggest voice?
Elvis heh
Old 25th August 2005
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Elvis heh
I thought so till I heard a concert of Elvis with Frank Sinatra. Elvis sounded like Tweety.
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Old 25th August 2005
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i don't think about BIG from a pre amp too much for certain things as i use my C12VR modded by Innertube Audio ... it truely is the biggest thing in the track ... whatever is recorded using it ...

just a bit of food for thought ... may not be the pre .... pavarotti into a smackie (toaster) is HUGE ... you couold mic him with a digital still camera mic and it would be massive ... i went to far didn't I ..... sorry

peace john
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i don't think about BIG from a pre amp too much for certain things as i use my C12VR modded by Innertube Audio ... it truely is the biggest thing in the track ... whatever is recorded using it ...

just a bit of food for thought ... may not be the pre .... pavarotti into a smackie (toaster) is HUGE ... you couold mic him with a digital still camera mic and it would be massive ... i went to far didn't I ..... sorry

peace john
Let me get something staight here. For me: first the performer, second the instrument, then mic technic, the mic, and then the pre (there are more after, of course). I know that, but now I'm asking about the fifth element of the chain. I know is not the most important, but is the one I want to know about now.
Other thing about the "what is big" question, I'm asking about your concept of "big", not mine. Whatever would big mean for you all, I what to know your pick.

Now, back to Pavarotti, are you saying that Pavarotti would sound about the same no mater what mic or pre he uses? Would you use the pre of an M-Box for important tracks, specially for a classical guitar & vox album?

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