Anyone, tell me something ?
I am hoping to hear that Neuman outperforms the other one...
Anyone used it side by side ?
my only experience is using 451 on acoustic guitar and it sounded bright and pleasing. The only concern is that it would sound thin for instruments that have a lot of body like drums or accordion...
That's why I'm hoping that Neuman will be a bang for the buck...
the old 451 EB's sound nothing like the new akg 451 offering.
the new ones sound harsh and bright to me.
basically useless for the sounds i like to achieve.
my of old 451 EB's are wonderful mics for many applications.
ac gtr, strings, OH's.
when i first got them, i A/B'd them with my neumann km 184's and sold the km 184's one week later for $400 more than i paid for the 451 EB's.
Or, is there any nice stereo pair out there that outperforms these two in terms of price-range ?
The Oktava MK-012 MSP6 kits are so much mic for your needs it's ridiculous. In my opinion they would prove themselves more useful than either of those, not only in sound but having the choice to swap cardioid, omni and hypercardioid capsules (which all have their own tone to them). The omni cap from Oktava impresses me more and more lately, very linear sound with great snap.
Out of the two, I would go with the Neumann though over the AKG for those uses.
I'm happily surprised to see so many positive comments about the 184. They tend to get abused around here, and on other forums.
They have probably been used on more commercially released recordings in the past 10 years than any other SDC mic. (I can't imagine how many thousands of 184s Neumann has sold in that time). I'm sure that some of the negative comparisons versus certain vintage SDC mics are valid, but I've found my pair of 184s to be very useful in a wide variety of situations.
If there is an upside to all of the online criticism of this mic it might be that you occasionally see great deals on used pairs, likely from people who read that they own mics that don't sound good.