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Old 13th August 2005
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Trigger-units

I'm completly new to drumtrigger-units so what I'd like to know:
Can anyone recommend me drumtriggers that are well sensitive to ghost-notes.
I'll be using them for studio-recording only.
DDrum is the first brand that came to my mind, but I'll bet that there are many others.
I want to use the triggers together with libraries like Larry Seyer Acoustic Drums, or DFH-Custom & Vintage, so they must be able to send midi to separate channels in Pro Tools.
Suggestions?

Thanks!
Old 14th August 2005
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Old 14th August 2005
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do you want to trigger from pads or real drums live, in real time, or from recorded tracks?
Old 14th August 2005
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If triggering from audio...while not the latest technology I recall Ben & Bruce Forats 16 bit F-16 sampler/triggers being used by rock producers.
BTW Ben & Bruce were (are?) the guys that did (do?) all of the mods to Linn drum machines.
Old 14th August 2005
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I have a Ddrum4 with pads to trigger Dfh Superior with it and works great. I also used it live and in the studio with the Ddrum triggers on an acoustic kit, which also worked out fine.
Old 15th August 2005
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Quote:
do you want to trigger from pads or real drums live, in real time, or from recorded tracks?
I want to use the triggers on the acoustic drums only (kick, snare, 4 toms).
Overheads and ambience will be recorded in audio.
So in the end I should have 6 recorded miditracks and say 4 audiotracks.
I want to keep the drums midi ofcourse so I can fiddle around with velocity, other samples, etc. until I get the right mix between the recorded overheads and the drumsamples.
Old 15th August 2005
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there's a nice AKAI MET 35 for sale on ebay.
Cheap, don't remember if it's on ebay US or Germany
Old 15th August 2005
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How is the Roland TMC 6 trigger to midi converter?
Old 15th August 2005
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I also have a Ddrum4 which is cool but not worth the price. If you use the signature sounds, you have only enough RAM for 4-5 kits.

I also know the Roland TD-10 which is in the same league. The Roland sounds are more "produced" (compression, reverb etc) while the Ddrum sound are more natural.

If you just want a trigger interface without sounds, buy the litlle Roland thing!
Old 15th August 2005
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If you just want a trigger interface without sounds, buy the litlle Roland thing!

Exactly!
Just a good 'trigger-to-midi-converter' without a soundmodule with crappy sounds.
Those Larry Seyer and DFH Custom & Vintage libraries sound way better than those modules.
So what I basically want is:

1 kicktrigger
1 snaretrigger
4 tomtriggers

And 1 converter which sends 6 separate midichannels to my DAW.

I just wonder which triggers are the most 'velocity-sensitive' so I could
assign like 127 samples across the complete midi-velocity range.
Maybe a bit ludicrous to use a 127-multi sampled snare for popdrums,but hey, it's the year 2005

I also noticed that most Ddrum-triggers have a jack output, but the snaretrigger
has an XLR-output; do I need special cables like XLR-jack for use with a Roland TMC-6?
Old 15th August 2005
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You only need a special cable if you connect a DDrums snare pad (with two XLR outs) to a Roland interface.

About the triggers, I would say that it does not really matter. I used Ddrums TriggerPerfect, DDT. To me there's no big difference.
Old 15th August 2005
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Hmmm....I guess I could also use a 'normal' trigger like I would use on toms on a snaredrum?
I won't be needing a 'special' sensor for picking up sidesticks.
If I use a tomtrigger on a snaredrum, will it also pick up the sidesticks, if I place the trigger closer to the point where the stick will hit the rim?
Old 15th August 2005
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I think Pinntech makes triggers. I seem to recall a drummer friend speaking praise.
Old 15th August 2005
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pintech pads are pretty solid. just make sure they work well with your model drum brain. i had a little trouble getting one dialed in with a roland td10. but, once it was set up it worked pretty well.

also, old alesis d4's are pretty good at trigger-midi and audio-midi...
Old 15th August 2005
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I had a look at those Ddrum Redshot triggers.
Seemed good for a fair price.
Anyone had good or bad experience with them?
Can they be connected with a Roland TMC-6?
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