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what is your bass guitar chain?
Old 1st August 2005
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what is your bass guitar chain?

I'm looking to buy some gear for bass git recording into my PC.
I write brit pop stuff

I currently have :
G&L bass - aphex 207D- Tascam US-122- PC


I'm thinking of upgrading to this setup :
G&L bass - SansAmp RBI - FMR RNP - FMR RNC - then to my US-122


any other chain suggestions would be welcome.


thanks
Old 1st August 2005
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Bass and DI are usually variable. Preference for bass is Musicman Stingray. Preference for bass DI is usually Great River, Vintech 473, or OSA DI....they are all pretty different with varying degrees of highs, lows and coloration. Compressor has been Trakker or Purple for a few years. Hopefully the client is going to tape. FWIW, I haven't used a mic on a bass cab in maybe 4 years. If the customer insisted I'd probably just reamp later (at my place most people monitor on the ADAMs with the drummer isolated in the big room, not on headphones).
Old 1st August 2005
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DI is usually API 512c or UA 610 through a DBX160x.
Also depends on what's laying around a particular studio.
421, Fet47, or some other mic on the cab through another 160x.
Sometimes a SansAmp DI as well.
Old 1st August 2005
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i have a new b-15 with a line out di - this di is great
a soundelux u95s and a subkick in front
of the speaker
all three signals going to a daking console
bussed to tape..............



don't overlook the $249 sub kick
it works well

- jack
Old 1st August 2005
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I consider the bass amplifier part of the artist's expression. I have little interest in a DI for bass guitar.
Old 1st August 2005
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Yeah, ya gotta mic something, if for nothing other than the room. Gives the bass a place to live. Otherwise it sounds 'omniscient'.
Old 1st August 2005
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Current chain:

new P Bass with active emg pickups, all audio quest guitar cables...

Evil Twin ....Split the signal...

direct to tape.

and

to a vintage B-15... close mic'd with an SM7 and/or RE20, distant mic'd with an R88 in stereo... mic-pre is a Pendulum MDP-1, eq'd with an Avedis E15 and DW Fearn vt-7, then compressed with an Atomic Squeezebox. to tape.

and....

to a Diezel VH4 channel 2 into a marshall 4X12 cabinet (with G 12H 75s). mic'd with a D112. into shep sn8 pre and EQ, then a hedd 192 (using the tape knob only). then to tape.
Old 1st August 2005
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Favourite basses : Fender Jazz or Musicman Stingray

into Little Labs IBP (even if I'm NOT taking the amp at the same time - it's a great DI), mic varies depending on tone / cab, but often a U-195 into either an API 512c or an A Designs MP2. Both of these go into either side of a Buzz SOC1.1.

At mixdown I often put the combined bass tracks into a Tube-tech CL1-A.
Old 1st August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_who
I'm thinking of upgrading to this setup :
G&L bass - SansAmp RBI - FMR RNP - FMR RNC - then to my US-122
As i understand the RNC tends not to handle bassguitar verry wel

Remco
Old 1st August 2005
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Do you already own a bass amp? what is it?
Do you have any mikes? what are they?

If you record thru the sansamp rbi, I'd take two tracks, one from the dry and one from the wet DI. you could reamp the dry one in mixdown if required.

A cheap Compressor for the bass would be a jo meek, maybe the new audio leveller from the guy who makes rnp (not that I've heard it), maybe malcolm toft, maybe even skip the compression to tape, worry about it in mixdown if you need it.

I usually just use di's unless I want a dirty sound, no compression to tape, little or no eq.

Narco
Old 1st August 2005
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SWR Baby Blue head + Randall Iso Box = Great sound! thumbsup
Old 1st August 2005
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SVT 4Pro + Ampeg 15" speaker. Usually mic'd with an ATM 25.

Ampeg SVTDI box. Usually through a Presonus Eureka for the compressor. A lot of people here don't like the Eureka, but it's pretty good for bass IMHO.

Sans Amp DI. Through my McCurdy console's mic pre's.

The SVTDI and the Sans Amp DI work great together. They give you a wide range of tones, and are very phase coherent. The amp adds "mojo". If I'm working super fast, I'll use the two DI's together without the amp. Instant setup, with no mic placement.
Old 1st August 2005
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I'm a bassist. I find I can do better direct.

Sadowsky JJ5 w/nickle rounds (more growl) or Sadowsky PJ5 w/SS flats (more warm punch) or a Pedulla Pentabuzz fretless into either a Aguilar DB-680 (more grind) or a Demeter VTBP 201 (more butter) (both pre's with NOS USA tubes) into a LA4a and into the PT.

I like to record the Sadowskys in passive mode with a short canare cable and let the tubes in the bass pres do the work.
Old 1st August 2005
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G&L bass records well.
Mic with an SM7 or RE20 on the cab. I love the B15 but lately things seem to fall together a bit easier with a cab that has 4x10 set up.
I use the U5 for the DI.
Depending on the player and his sound dictates what I use for mic pre, eq, compression. However, most times the mic goes through a 512. I prefer to use as little compression as possible but rather only as much as the players style dictates.
I'd rather leave that as more of an option when mixing.
Old 1st August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by max cooper
Yeah, ya gotta mic something, if for nothing other than the room. Gives the bass a place to live. Otherwise it sounds 'omniscient'.

Dude, when I play the bass it *is* omniscient!
Old 1st August 2005
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Bass -> Radial JDI -> Split signal:

1) Direct to tape for possible reamping (however it usually sounds great through the JDI alone)

2) Sansamp Bass Driver -> Distressor -> Great River ME1-NV
Old 1st August 2005
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REDDI on the DI (also rocks on electric piano) - 1066, 512, 1176, LA3A, Distressor or whatever I feel like that day. I haven't given the pacifica much of a spin on bass yet. The API DI is pretty good for a smaller sound.

Mic on bass cab - SM7b, CAD VX2, Rode Classic II, SM5b (no RE20 around and the D12 doesn't work. come to think of it, I haven't seen the thing in months) into ADesigns MP2, 1066, 512 or whatever. All good but different.

Mic on guitar cab (optional) - 421, E609, SM7b
Old 1st August 2005
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Safe Sound Audio P1. Also diggin' this Chameleon Labs 7602 for smooth stuff.

I never mic bass cabs, don't own one either though. Soon I am in the market for a P though...

War
Old 1st August 2005
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I see the JDI is popular here. I love it!


Bass ---> RADIAL JDI ---->

Split to:

1) Api 312 -----> IBP Junior -----> AD16X

2) Matamp -----> U195 ----> Api 312 -----> AD16X

Old 1st August 2005
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I've been going amp + DI. 512c usually the pre.
Early 70's P w/ added J pickup in bridge.
(Yeah I know, but I didn't rout it out, it was like that when I got it)
DBX 160X can rock.

Had a guy here last week with a 61 J, and Demeter tube bass pre.
Sounded F'n amazing! Sounded great with my P also.
I think the Demeter is older, because I don't see it anywhere online.
It may have evolved into one of the newer ones.

He has an Eclair Evil Twin he's going to sell soon.
I'm gonna check it out, but it may end up here, in the classifieds.

Andrew
Old 1st August 2005
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often

Bass > instrument In of Pendulum MDP-1 done!

occasionally a Distressor in there or a dbx 160x

for a different sound, the IBP has a very nice DI section

If I want an amp sound I prefer to reamp later. I tend to be experimental with the reamp trying amps and mics one might not use in a normal tracking session.
Old 1st August 2005
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Bass - JDI - Pendulum Quartet - PT HD
and
Bass - Vox Cambridge - Sm57 - whatever pre is around - PT HD (for the "cranked" sound)

Jo
Old 1st August 2005
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fender precision bass w/ flatwounds (the flats are very important!)> tab v-71 (if available.... i gotta buy me one of 'em real soon!!)> drawmer 1968 (or purple mc-77) > cranesong hedd.
joshua
Old 1st August 2005
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Current favorite setup - Stingray 5 to Vintech X73i. Compression (if needed) by DBX 160XT.

Other setup - G & L 2000 to Pendulum MDP1.

Mix and match.
Old 1st August 2005
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1981 aria pro II MIJ fretless w/ Dimarzios w/ TI Jazz flats into A-designs MP2.

1994 fender p bass lyte w/ active EMGs w/ roundwounds into A-designs MP2.

no compression as of yet, but am eyeballing the RNLA.
Old 1st August 2005
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I use either a Fender Jazz or P or a Ibanez custom 4 string

Into an Ampeg B3158 ( 150 w 1-15 , 1-8" ) 15" miced with a Beta52 and the 8" miced with a Geffel Um70 or 414buls , then direct out into an 1176ln on a separate track.

Killer full tone and string tone with the direct thru the 1176ln

Later
Buzz

I guess I need a good direct box to split the bass siganl as well for max application.
Old 2nd August 2005
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G and L ASAT 2500, 5 string to Aguilar DB900 tube DI, into Avalon 737sp into Purple MC76 into Crane Song HEDD into PT HD, use Oxford Dynamics and Crane Song Phoenix plugins, sounds awesome

Lately i have used Pendulum Audio MDP1A as DI into Tube Tech LCA2b, a really pleasing fat and punchy sound. The Pendulum is perfectly voiced for bass.. Don't often mike cabs.


James
Old 2nd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stuntbutt
I consider the bass amplifier part of the artist's expression. I have little interest in a DI for bass guitar.

Exactly. I am a bass player, and I play differently (better) in the room with a good amp. The room becomes part of the sound. Get a speaker and a microphone.
Old 2nd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamstudio
As i understand the RNC tends not to handle bassguitar verry wel

Remco
That is true. I found it fairly useless on stuff with a lot of bass content.
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