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What desk is this? (King Tubby's console)
Old 29th July 2005
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What desk is this? (King Tubby's console)

Here is a pic of the console King Tubby used for a lot of his mixes. I think the bank of 4 curved faders were added by tubby. Can anyone tell me what desk (console, board) this is? I heard it was an old MCI? Any ideas?



Here is a shot of him in his studio. Any idea of what is in the racks? I know its almost impossible to tell, and some may be home made. Also, what make is the 8 track 2" tape machine?

Old 29th July 2005
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Bump... I'd love to know more about this too!!!
Old 29th July 2005
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I don't know about the console, but the tape machine appears to be a Scully. The VU's above it are the amps for each channel.
Old 29th July 2005
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People here:

http://www.interruptor.ch/cgi-bin/di...ages/1/60.html

(is this where you got the picture)

are saying it's a one-off custome job built by the man he self, and that it's on display in a museum in Seattle!

FB
Old 29th July 2005
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it looks like an old MCI desk. i think tubby also modified the EQ

the guy was a serious electronics wiz, wound his own transformers etc
Old 29th July 2005
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cool interview with tubbys brother, osbourne ruddock, who first came up with the idea of using spring reverbs for dub, and built jamaicas first dub plate cutters (pic below)

http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/20...ure_print.html

Old 16th April 2010
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to bring an old but interesting tread alive ...

I recently heared on a webradio interview with king jammy (the famous jamaican producer, who learned everything by working as tubby's assistant in the 70's) that it was a tubby's custom self build console based on an old MCI but also includes parts of helios & emi consoles and some self build circuits. King tubby was an electrical engineer from education who build or modded all his equipment to his specs. He also worked in other studio's (Treasure Isle, Channel 1, Randy's, ...) and for various sound systems (= a dj crew with an own sound system setup) as disk cutter, sound engineer or electrical engineer and was famous for modding mediocore equipment to hi end specs.
Old 16th April 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 7 Hz View Post
I think the bank of 4 curved faders were added by tubby.
Very EMI, yes.
Old 11th March 2011
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cool looking board
Old 12th March 2011
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looks like a universal audio 175 or 176 behind him.......
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I'm sure this has been posted someplace on GS already, but I always wondered myself what the board in this video was. Very cool. Love that Ampex in the back.
Old 22nd September 2012
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Thought I'd copy and paste something interesting on this topic I've just come across on this thread

Blood and Fire • View topic - King Tubby's mixing desk

"I've been reading so much nonsense about jamaican recording studios in the last 30 years, mostly from reggae "experts" who are actually knowleadgeable record collectors but don't know anything about a recording studio or playing music. Loads of innacurate information taken as the truth...still being copied and paste nowadays.
Hardly any decent interviews with the actual musicians or engineers who made the records.


Chris Lane wrote some excellent articles about Dub and studio techniques. Best I've read.
And he was actually there in the 70s!
Anyway, we were talking about Tubby's board, and he send me this.
I think is too good not to be shared.

Many people here are producers / engineers / musicians. Please add to it or correct.


Information courtesy of Chris Lane.



KING TUBBY’S………..

I think this photo came from the museum in Seattle which bought the desk from Blackbeard.... I think I've got most of the controls correct.although there could be a coule of mistakes in that 'map'..... notice there are no panpots on the mixer...... and how many knobs have gone missing! :roll:

... and it's not a four track mixer.... as you can see it's 12 into 4.


The desk is definitely MCI – I’ve seen it called a ‘Lutz’ but this is wrong – Lutz was the repair/service engineer at Dynamics – I know because I met him……

…and I’ve never quite believed all that stuff about Tubbs ‘modifying’ the desk – it makes a good story to say that he took it pieces and built it back up to his own supernatural specifications but think about it – why would he do that?

That mixer was already tried and tested – it had recorded and mixed more hit records than any other in Jamaica (in terms of worldwide sales possibly more than all the others put together!) so why would anyone want to **** about with it? ….. and I’m pretty sure Tubbs was the kind of man who knew that when something ain’t broke, you don’t try to fix it….

He probably did replace the faders, (after years of use, people smoking and dropping fag ash, etc in to them, they tend to get worn and dirty, and therefore noisy) but that’s a regular job – even I’ve done that, and I’m not exactly handy with a soldering iron!


I’ve seen a mixer that was similar-ish – but bigger – in the UK in the early 80’s…. it didn’t have the HPF, but it did have those same lovely illuminated quadrant faders on the output channels!


I’ve spoken to both Sid Bucknor and Andy Capp about it - they both said they were there to install it into Dynamics, in fact I think it was Andy who went to the US (Miami, I think) to collect it from the sellers – I got the impression that it was bought from a broker/dealer rather than a studio. They also said it had possibly been in a C&W studio, but they may have been guessing….

I also spoke to Byron Lee about the mixer – he even smiled when we talked about Tubby’s getting something different out of it after it left Dynamics – I think he was genuinely pleased that it was put to good use! He also told me exactly what the ‘big knob’ was – and who made it – it was an add-on to the desk, and it was on there when he bought it….. When I had my studio I must have asked at least seven electronic engineers to build me a HPF like Tubby’s – they all told me it would be quite easy, but none of them managed to do it (including Pepe Rush, who’s mentioned in the Graeme Goodall article).

(I wrote in my article that Siddy had used the HPF to get rid of unwanted LF on percussion mics - and of course, that's exactly what you would use it for if you didn't have the imagination to use it as an effect.... )

Tubbs has two big Tannoy monitors in the corners, a Presto (I think) cutter, and two half-inch four tracks – one a Scully, the other Ampex. The one on the right was used for delay when mixing……

I saw a Fisher reverb unit up on eBay a few years ago, have to say it looked very impressive – and again why would he ‘customize’ it?…. And I’ve never heard of him using the GB spring – I would have thought he could have found (or built) something a lot better than that if he’d needed to…..

The Big Knob is built into the board (see attached picture)… Jammy told me they would send the signal through a group output to the filter, and then back into the mix – to be honest, it didn’t sound very straightforward when he told me, so perhaps I missed something! I suppose really the treated signal should come back on the same fader as the original signal, so it should be as though you’d patched an effect into the path (even when the effect is in bypass)…. Or perhaps they did that with all the music channels and returned it on one fader, but that still sounds a bit odd…. Jammy also told me that Scientist’s ‘bong’ sound with the reverb was done with a speaker and mic in the voicing booth…. I always found it much easier just to feed back the reverb on itself through the mixer……

...and I remember Tubby's cutter being to the right of the mixer - under the speaker - so opposite to that rack with the compressor/limiter in it.... but in front of you, if you know what I mean....

HP filter effect:
some of the B-sides with that sort of effect are actually done at Randy's cutting studio.... Dennis and Errol Thompson used to put the rhythm track of a two track master tape through a parametric equaliser (and sweep the cut-off point) while cutting live to the acetate to create a similar effect..... it's almost the same, but hasn't quite got the 'edge' that Tubby's has got.....

'Fire From the Observer', the B-side to 'Saturday Night Special', the B-side to 'Arabs' Oil Weapon' are all from Randy's (I think!)... there's a quite few of these tunes, most have RRS matrix #s and DT or ET initials as well......

... and if you think about it, Tubby's (and the other engineers there) used it rather subtley and sparingly.... perhaps too much so!


And I forgot to say before that it isn't really the mixer that's "magic".....

.......the magic came from Tubbs, Jammy, Phillip Smart, Pat Kelly, Scientist.....

......and all the other engineers in the other studios as well!

......it really annoys me that I was never really into taking pictures (and I hated having my photo taken!) so I haven't any proper studio shots (or even snaps of me 'at the controls'!).........

I hope this is helpful......
Old 23rd September 2014
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Just found this interesting thread... I'm a long time fan of Jamaican music and spent a fair amount of time there in the late 80s, mostly in Kingston collecting records and hanging out. Didn't see the inside of any studios, except I was in Studio 1 at Brentford Rd several times buying records, by the late 80s the studio didn't look too active. They had what looked like an old Ampex (?) console in the late 60s or early 70s, this from a photo on the back of the "Presenting Larry Marshall" LP. Larry was trained as an engineer at Studio One by Sid Bucknor I believe... anyway, more trivia.

One of my Jamaican friends was Kenneth Hookim, a brother of JoJo Hookim & his family who owned Channel One, and in retrospect I missed a chance to see that place - it was not very active at that time but all the gear was still there & I'm sure Kenneth would have shown me around. I'm a musician who has had a project studio for some years, but in those days I was not yet into recording.

I would be extremely curious to know what gear was at both the WIRL and Treasure Isle studios, some beautiful sounding recordings were made at both places. WIRL burned down, (some say at the direction of Eddie Seaga, as an insurance scam) and is now the site of Tuff Gong. Unfortunately many masters were lost in that fire as well, which makes the original records even more valuable. Tuff Gong was a very small, and very dead room. If you look around the net a bit, there are some multitrack master files of some Marley tunes you can download, which make for some educational listening.
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