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cheesy pop you SHOULDN'T like, and yet...
Old 24th July 2005
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cheesy pop you SHOULDN'T like, and yet...

what the hell, i'll fess up: i love nellie furtado. yep, her voice is beyond whiny. yep, yep, yep to all your objections. i still love her, and your grumpiness matters not.

also, i loved that kelis song, milkshake.

ashlee simpson, pieces of me.

and now, most recently, kelly clarkson, breakaway.

some things, there's just no explaining, y'know?

any attempts to deny your occasional love of high quality cheese will be met with a mildly derisive yet knowing laugh that you cannot hear but you will feel nonetheless. ha! heh


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Old 24th July 2005
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I love Karen Carpenter

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Old 24th July 2005
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I love Karen Carpenter

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The Partridge Family (yea really!!)

Great musicianship, catchy tunes even if Cassidy can't really sing!
I wonder what poor sot had the phone number "echo valley 26809" back circa 1971

I always liked that tune "Brandy" by Looking Glass.

It's a very "visual" tune where the story actually makes me feel like I am sitting
at some sleazy waterfront bar.

"More Today Than Yesterday" by SpiralStaircase.
More top of the line musicians and a great Al Capps arrangement....
This tune is on just about every jukebox I have ever seen, no matter what
kind of venue it's in.

And of course "The Carpenters" as well. I like the xmas album...

Ok....I'm out of the closet now

FWIW normally I'm playing Teddy Wilson, Oscar Peterson, Manhattan Transfer tunes on the keyboards....

But......I still have a place in my heart for some of the bubblegum stuff....
Old 24th July 2005
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I still have no idea why I like eminems "ass like that" song.
Old 24th July 2005
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Boney M 'Daddy Cool', do you US guys know this? A pure plastic 70ies creation, it grooves like crazy though.

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Old 25th July 2005
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oh ja, some Munich colour, ja?

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Old 25th July 2005
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Velveeta pop?

LOVE it.. especially from the '60s.

The Monkees ("Sometime In The Morning"is one of the best jangle pop love songs ever, and the production sounds like it was tracked and mixed with a pair of paper cups and string. On the inputs AND outputs.)

Grassroots
Spiral Staircase
Edison Lighthouse
Andy Kim
Four Seasons (Not really cheese pop, though.. more their own thing)
Brian Hyland - both incarantions
Loved the Carpenters whole ouvere, Hated the Osmonds, though.
J5

Some great, fun records there.

I don't WANNA be pissed off enough all the time to enjoy today's top 40 without flinching.

It's all either "Eau mah Gahd, yew can like.. totally do meh!" asscrack diva pop or guys who sound like they've been living in a concrete bunker, geting beaten between meals and were only given Line 6 pods and guitars to occupy themselves with.

Too much totty and serious, wrist slashing depression... Are kids really not having ANY fun, anymore?

Nothing bouncy and fun to write about that the kids will dig?

How... pathetic.
Old 25th July 2005
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Old 25th July 2005
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Let's Get ******** by Black Eyed Peas
Old 25th July 2005
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Kelly Clarkson - Since You've Been Gone
Old 25th July 2005
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That Shania Twain song "Still The One" or whatever it's called. Incredible vocal sound on that one.

"Deadbeat Club" by the B52's. Great chorus melody.

"Baby Boy" by Beyonce Knowles. Her vibrato is awesome.
Old 25th July 2005
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Mmmm-Bop rocks.

Totally.


The Carpenters, I don't consider them cheesy. Maybe 'grossly overlooked by many', maybe 'ultra-talented at making pretty music' if that's what cheesy is.
Old 25th July 2005
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Yeah those Kelly clarkson songs i dig a lot. Behind these hazel eyes, Since you been gone! At least it's a real band playing and she can sing. They're good tunes!

And Nobody's home by Avril Lavigne, I was hooked to that song for a week. It was playing on a loop constantly, I couldn't get enough of it .

I grew up on Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dio, Ozzy-Sabbath....
Old 25th July 2005
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Great pop is inspiring. Usually teamwork.
I have no problem getting off on the likes of Jesse McCartney, Avrill Lavign or Kelly Clarkson.
A lot of the work on those albums has more merit to me than most of the more "important" artists.
The euphoria I feel when listening to great pop (eg You Are The Sunshine Of My Life) has no equal in the other arts....film etc.
It depends what reaction you are looking for from music.
I always liked the reaction " I'm HAVE to buy that record NOW"
It happened when I heard "I Was Made To Love Her" by Stevie Wonder and it happened when I heard "I'm With You" by Avril and "Breaking The Habit" by Linkin Park"
Yes it's ok to mention those people in the same sentence.
It does not happen as often these days but every now and then I have to race down to the store and buy a CD that has captured my imagination.
And that's what great pop is about I think.
Old 25th July 2005
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Quote:
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The Carpenters, I don't consider them cheesy. Maybe 'grossly overlooked by many', maybe 'ultra-talented at making pretty music' if that's what cheesy is.
A totally agree, and I'm not ashamed. But they seem to be cheesy for
my EMO-friends..and my daughter.


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Old 25th July 2005
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holy **** dude.. yeah, run ..
Old 25th July 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruudman
A totally agree, and I'm not ashamed. But they seem to be cheesy for
my EMO-friends..and my daughter.


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They come up in my iTunes list right after Cannibal Corpse.
Old 25th July 2005
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On the newer tip:

Emerson Drive's "Fall Into Me" is a perfect piece of alt country jangle pop. hits in and quits it in 2:32, like it's supposed to. Richard Marx on the nibnob.

And... say what you will, but Faith Hill's "Breathe" has a hook the size of an Escalade and if it doesn't make you play lap drums and get you feeling all squidgy, you may not like pop music at all.
Old 25th July 2005
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I bought the first 2 spice girls records. No ****, i thought there was some great song writing on those discs. (the track spice up your life rules pretty hard) Not to mention i wanted to bone all of em.
Old 25th July 2005
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Not to mention i wanted to bone all of em.
You are a marketing mook's wet dream. heh

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Old 25th July 2005
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"Extraordinary" off Liz Phair's latest. That chorus just explodes!
Old 25th July 2005
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Complicated - Avril Lavigne

Stacy's Mom - Fountains of Wayne

(There's Gotta Be) More Than Life - Stacie Orrico

Since U Been Gone - Kelly Clarkson (I secretly rock out in the car ((except at traffic lights)) to this one .)

Wake Up - Hilary Duff (Try getting that hook outta your head once you hear it.)

909 kick drums & acoustic guitars on the verses, DJ cuts & 808 drops, synth arppegators, vari-fied stops, telephone filtered vocals, auto-tuned white girls trying to sing like Beyonce, keyboard sub bass, big rock guitar with that happy-ass Matrix melody on the hook, 16th note tamborine drum loops panned to one side, moog synth lead licks, hand claps, Antares coated backing vocals, etc. Who can get enough of it?

Old 25th July 2005
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I am keen on a LOT of radio pop..

I always have been..

I enjoy it..

I am not ashamed..

Re pop - I do have a growing nervousness about my feelings that somehow Green Day deserve entry into some sort of pop song writing Hall of Fame... I mean how many catchy tunes can those guy's come up with? And they have a political consiousness too? OK - I've said it... now I will go and hide....
Old 25th July 2005
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OK - I've said it... now I will go and hide....
Well, the best way to do that is
thumbsup

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Old 25th July 2005
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oh ja, some Munich colour, ja?
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Ganz genau! Boney M. was produced by Frank Farian, the original 'phantom producer'. He got infamous for doing Milli Vanilli later on.

Boney M. was a blueprint for that, 3 black girls plus a Lenny Kravitz-looking dude. None of them sang on their records. They also had a hit with a disco version of 'Rivers of Babylon'.

Anyway, it was detested as 'plastic' back in the day but upon hearing this one tune 'Daddy Cool' again recently I had to admit that it's a serious groove and the whole production is almost as good as 'Lady Marmalade' really.

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Old 25th July 2005
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A Boney M hit that gets stuck in my brain (and I don't like the song!!)
is "Brown Girl in The Ring"

When I find myself going: tra la la la la, I almost faint coz I'm so ashamed..


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Old 25th July 2005
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How about "Walking on Sunshine" by Katrina and the Waves??? (Great drum sound, btw...).

And of course a bit of the Monkees as well...
Old 25th July 2005
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Do Hall and Oates qualify? heh
Old 25th July 2005
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Quote:
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I am not ashamed..

Re pop - I do have a growing nervousness about my feelings that somehow Green Day deserve entry into some sort of pop song writing Hall of Fame... I mean how many catchy tunes can those guy's come up with? And they have a political consiousness too? OK - I've said it... now I will go and hide....
green day is one of the best bands out there today. no cheesy pop at all.
Old 25th July 2005
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Just to name a few : Christina Aguilera - Beautiful, Justin Timberlake, Black Eyed Peas, Nelly ... love ´em all.

What I like about pop is its reduced quality : focus on the main parts, dismiss all the crap that distract from that. It´s a totally different point of view than bands like Dreamtheater (which I´m also a fan of) have. Plus the major artists oftentimes make their records on a high quality level - big budgets, big producers, big studios etc. That can be appealing, too.

Think about it, there´s a place for all of us

Cheers,
Bill
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