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Originally Posted by Amplove
Okay, I shouldn't have said "talentless and wannabees". I'm sorry. Okay? I didn't mean to sound so general. .
No reason to be sorry...it was just a bit extreme for me.
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I guess I'm speaking as a musician and not as an engineer. If you can be okay using those said tools on yourself, then great. I wish I wasn't so hard on myself. I can't live with it for some reason. It's the principle. (I know you're going to ream me for that one).
Actually bud, I haven't reamed you for anything...not once. You had your opinion I had mine...I am only trying to steer ANYBODY clear of getting off the topic and turning this into some pointless 'anti' auto-tune brittney R&B' thread or worse....
You know alot of these great folks share thier time with us here on this board. A moticum of respect isn't out of line.
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You're right. I have no idea what's it's like because I don't record people for a living. Maybe if I did and had to use those tools on hacks then I'd get used to it and respect if for the tool that it is.
'Hacks'? Who? Name them.
Baby Face? Usher? Destiny's Child..Who? These guys....?
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/36760-few-real-r-amp-b-session-video-clips.html
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God, I feel like I got spanked here. So much for being honest.
Spanked? Not for being honest...I am only trying to point out the idea that "not all who wander are lost." Maybe you should try not to be so hard on folks when you have no reference point...
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You rip my post apart and then tell me that you respect my opinion? Are you kidding me?
If you respected my opinion, that would mean that you understand where I'm coming from. But you ask me to explain and explain and treat me as if I was a punk rocker in a truck stop in west texas as if you didn't understand what I meant. And you respect my opinion?
Yes Jason....I absolutley respect your opinion.
Explain yourself? You don't have to...your point is straight forward and obvious. I feel I need to keep beating the same point to you which is..."I get it..." "We get it"..."Your not alone in your dislike of autotune"...I understand your frustration with the current state of modern rock, pop and radio"... You like it raw and natural, good old blood sweat and tears...!!OK, point made.
The only thing that is frustrating is listening to someone get slammed who might implement the other side of the coin...Cause believe me there is ANOTHER side of the world.
There are bonafide artists with the deepest level of sincerity and creativity..I know a few of them...These cats have more integrity and soul than most folks I know...and they play or write electronica music...
That is thier gift, that is thier passion, that is thier outlet and soul...
Talentless? Ha. Most people only wish they had 1/2 of the skill.
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p.s.
People on this board are so defensive about the littlest things. And people love to gang up on others like kids in the playground.
BS...Don't get down on this board because you had a little attitude but instead of the usual nonsense you find yourself on a board where most people are willing, ready and able to have an intelligent debate...Embrace it, learn and move on.
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I admit, I am being defensive but because I am being ganged up on. I really didn't think of myself as a jerk. I do put my foot in my mouth on occation but I think it's because I speak my mind and cut to the point more than others sometimes. Of course I'm not saying that what I say is right all the time
BS again...nobody ganged up on you...and nobody thinks you are a jerk. I don't.
To be honest I appreciate passion and opinons in people...Just keep it real.
There is an old saying Jason that I personally find useful:
"You know what you know"..."You know what you don't know" and "You don't know what you don't know". Keep in mind where you stand on something. It helps me anyway.
I find that most folks around here just care about the reality of day to day existence more than heresy. That should give you an example of keeping it real.
Cheers...
Peace to you!