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Neve 1073 or Avalon 737
Old 2nd July 2005
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i don't really see it as being overrated. what i mean by this is that many BIG hit records were tracked through avalons, so its history proves its not overrated. whether you like it or not, thats a whole nother argument.
I think a situation where LOTS of BIG records were tracked with such and such a box is EXACTLY how something becomes overrated.
Old 2nd July 2005
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Me too, until the 1080, not further.

Round the analogy was not intended to be exact. But you got the point, right?


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Old 2nd July 2005
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FINALLY!

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You're talking about the A Designs ATTY - but what you REALLY want with a 3124+ is the new ATTY2'D
THANX STUARTMAC!

I new I saw several posts of this BLCK BOX!
Now I know what´ll be next thing to buy!

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Old 2nd July 2005
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THANX STUARTMAC!

I new I saw several posts of this BLCK BOX!
Now I know what´ll be next thing to buy!

Regards,

PUPO
Would you please finaly explain what are you gonna use that thing on?

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Old 2nd July 2005
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Don't feel bad about asking dude. Neve has a history, but Avalon is making theirs. The 737 sounds great from a pre perspective and the EQ is not bad. The compressor, methinks it don't work. haha

But it does have a nice top end sound to it, and if all you were going to do is cut R&B vox, the avalon is awesome, and worth every penny.

But the reality is that the 1073 can be used on a host of different sources, from guitars to drum overheads, and it is never pissing in the wind. It will always work. It is 10 times the workhorse than the Avalan with a much more well rounded, warmer addition to all of your recordings, be it percussion, vox or whatever. As a mic pre, I personally love the Avalon, but like the Neve, it ain't for every singer you'll hear.

And like the Neve, every mic loves a different pre. Throw a U87 on the Neve, and for some it is heaven, for others it is muck. The Avalon sounds killer on chicks, some dudes, but not on everyone. However I think that you will find that the Avalon can still find a place in your stable, along with the Neve.

Funny, if you have both of them, people think you are brilliant, but if you only have the Avalon, they think you suck. Go figure.

Just remember to choose the one that fits your needs. Don't be like some of these guys and buy a Neve because you think you need one to brag about(although honestly, you do), buy the gear that makes you get the warm fuzzys when you hear it.

I will say that once you hear the Neve on a variety of instruments/vox, you will absolutely start a love affair that you can't get out of.

Good luck, & happy hunting.
Old 2nd July 2005
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Sorry- I hate those 737's. There is some awful harshness around 5-6k
and you just can't get rid of it. This company made some of the best discrete
Eq's I've ever heard but they lost the plot. NEVE 1073 (Or some API stuff)
Old 2nd July 2005
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My usual vocal path is a 1073 or 1084 with 1176 ... worked with a vocalist who felt strongly about trying a 737. The 737 sounded a bit choked by comparison and couldn't handle the dynamics of the vocalist as well. Of course, YMMV.

Having said that, I used some of the Brent Averill Neve units this past week .... very, very nice. thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

Cheers,
Old 2nd July 2005
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Is the 737 responsible for the proliferation of the channel strips?
In my memory I think they are. I’m not saying it was first one, but who began that trend.


Insomnio
Old 2nd July 2005
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there are soooo many channel strips .... i remember SSL coming out with a stereo preamp/EQ of their G console years ago.

Speaking of channel strips, anybody have experience with the Pendulum one?? The Mecenary model???

Cheers
Old 2nd July 2005
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why does it have to between these two? why not universal audio? or sebatron?
Old 2nd July 2005
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should i buy a lexus or a escort?
Exactly!!! Lol!

The Avalon is a bit "bling! bling!" as we say in the UK, and the rnb and hip hop people are going to love it, but I'm of the opinion that purists would take the 1073 any day.

Shiny facia or shiny electronics?
Old 2nd July 2005
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(I guess this is where I show my age)


Avalon used to be a strictly boutique company that made the absolute best solid state microphone pre-amps with EQ. THEN they came out with their pro-sumer 737. The first of their gear to also have "tubes". Now from a marketing standpoint it put them on the map, so that's good i guess. But it ruined their reputation (imo). Most people who have the ears of snakes, went out and bought these nice little toy boat anchors and the rest is History.
So, if you were comparing an M5, or the much older piece (can't remember the model number... had the cool ability to actually blend the un-eq'd path with the eq's path) or a 2022- etc ( while Apple vs. Oranges) With a Neve 1066/1073/1084, you'd have an argument. BUT to go to a 737 vs 1073 (for the debate) is ridiculous. period. One IS a Lexus...the other a civic. If again we were talking about the REAL Avalon stuff then we'd be comparing a Lexus to an Acura.
Old 2nd July 2005
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i agree, if the discussion turns between 1073 and ad2022, it is a whole new picture and it realy comes down to taste and preferences.
Old 2nd July 2005
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I have used a lot of gear over the years and I think everything can have it's place.. I don't slagg too many pieces.....


but....


Man do I HATE the 737. As someone said above, everything I ever used it for came out choked and thin. Back a few years ago when the 737 was all the rage I was against it then too so I am not jumping on any bandwagons here.

Honestly if you are really trying to compare the 737 to a Neve well, I think the Lexus / Civic statement is not far off the mark.... well BMW / Pinto would be my analogy but you get the point.

If you are seriously split between the 737 and any quality pre, Neve, API, Great River, Chandler, hell Vintech even, you need to 1) really hear them side by side and 2) with all due respect stop believing hype. If you own a 737 already I know you might want to defend it, that is understandable but a 737 can not hold it's own on the as many sources (if any) as any of the above units.

Sorry, that is my personal experience.....
Old 2nd July 2005
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I feel so out of place here. Nobody's taking my 94 Corolla in consideration for comparisons.





My Toyota is the 1073, end of discussion!

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Old 28th November 2010
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what about tube,,,,,,

neve 1073 hasnt got any valve to warm up like manley stuffs....
Old 28th November 2010
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1073..period
Avalon .. overated to say the least. unless bland is your thing.
Yep, sold my 737. Using the pres on my MR816X. 1073 of some kind is on my list
Old 28th November 2010
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What fits you best, is your best choice. In my case it would be a 1073 (i hate those avalon 7x7 series also). But you may prefer otherwise.
Old 28th November 2010
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The OP said that they used both. If you have used both, then what we think doesn't matter. What do YOU think?

neve is pretty sweet. I personally have never had a great experience with Avalon. That doesn't mean that you will have a bad experience.
Old 28th November 2010
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I couldn't wait to get the 737!!! Spent some of my tax return, brought an outta box piece with 1 space rack case from GC. Used it MAYBE 10 times? SOLD IT and a Cactus to a buyer total 3G. tutt Shoulda bought something HOT right then!! 2g for the 737, 1600 for the Cactus. Total LOSS.........600!!! Gotta start making smart decisions. Hello (2).......GAP73's connected to my KIWI and Sputnik. Distressor for comp Apogee or ADI96 for A/D to PT9. Total........About 3G+.

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Old 29th November 2010
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I feel so out of place here. Nobody's taking my 94 Corolla in consideration for comparisons.



My Toyota is the 1073, end of discussion!
Wow, this was 5 years ago and I still have that car! Being poor sucks.
Old 29th November 2010
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Although I am using one of my 737s as a talkback pre......I have made many, many, many, many great sounding recordings with it. I personally don't own a 1073 but I do own a Aurora Audio GTQ2 and it is definatly in the Neve realm but different from a 1073. I have compared it side by side with a Bae and,.......well.......umm........couldn't decide on a "Better" both were awsome and both sounded great. Giving the fact the the AA unit had 2 channels in the same price range.......

Saying all of that,....if you like the versatility that the 737 offers, look at the channel strip from Aurora Audio (GTQC)
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