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Tips on production around usually solo artist w accoustic gtr?
Old 24th July 2002
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dont u hust hate it when that happens !
that your new assistant ?

Old 26th July 2002
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So Jules, how is the project going?

Any news worthy of being newsworthy?
Old 27th July 2002
"dont u just hate it when that happens !
that your new assistant ?"

Yes he experienced sandwich run 'take II"


I used no Eq, I must say, it sounds awesome back at my place where I am setting up for mixing,

First stage

1) Hipass filter all unused / required sub bass of individual tracks (clear the mud but keep the warmth)
2) RIDE lead vocal rather than just strap on a compressor (perhaps after riding, dunno.... I will see.
3) I will try to use minimal or no EQ if I can... This is far easier on the jazzy acc / country style tracks but on the 'rocker'... man it is screaming out for some eq!!!
5) NO outboard eq or comps, I have to do this REAL fast and I cant be dealing with hardware reset each time I want to hop between tracks.

My instructions to the mastering guy will be like this...

"Please brighten this up as much as you see fit, please also use any level maximizing device like Waves L2 to get more volume if you feel like it. I have compressed this with an SSL compressor"

I hope to send him 96k Masterlink sessions on CDR24 - (BTW the Cranesong and it's tape/valve sound processing at 96k - is out of this world!)

BTW the session muso vibe was AMAZING it's Exile on Main St / Johnny Cash / Midnight Cowboy / Lee Hazelwood. (The artist is 56!)

While I am mixing (3 days, I am all pretty much set up now) in the next room on a second Mix + rig, I will get my 2nd engineer to be looking for and tiding up drum timing bloopers and dissonant gtr notes...)

I kicked serious engineering & production ass.

Report ends....

Old 27th July 2002
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Excellent news.

BTW the session muso vibe was AMAZING it's Exile on Main St / Johnny Cash / Midnight Cowboy / Lee Hazelwood. (The artist is 56!)

I'm hooked already.

Old 28th July 2002
I am using all my resourses to make the voice sound amazing

DSP4000 - "great plate"
TC M3000 - AMS (mines broken) simulator + some other patch I liked using on the 2nd reverb engine...
Some plug in reverbs (tbc)

I think I will ride/automate the keep it subtle.. but big.

The band sounds fine as it is...

Bass hardly needs compression (or riding) - what a great player!

Guys? What about using delays? His acc gtr picks up on the vocal mic...

Tips on vocal treatments on this situation?
Old 28th July 2002
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Hi Jules,

Most of my technique isn't fit for a monkey but maybe you can try this?

I heard this effect on an early American Music Club album and have tried over the years to emulate. (Mostly unsuccessfully. But when I get it to work, it sounds really nice.)

If you've got a section where it's mainly Vocal and finger-picked guitar try setting up a gate on the acoustic (I usually buss it, but there's probably a better way of doing it) that Hi/Lo passes everything except the string squeaks and then sending this to a long reverb.

If there's alot of string noise you might have to automate what actually gets sent to the verb but if you just add a few noises here and there it can create a really beautiful ambience.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck.


(And please, if this idea sucks, no monkey jokes ok? )
Old 28th July 2002
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Oh Shit.

I just realised that this isn't a vocal technique. But it does kinda reinforce the vocals...


Old 29th July 2002
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Sometimes a subtle stereo verb can help smooth bleed and phase issues between the gtr and vocal.
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