Originally Posted by u b i k

i've been meaning to clue people in to this for a long time.

before i got a nicerizer, i used a little green passive summing box from niche called the 'audio control module'. it has 8 ins, 8 outs and a stereo mix. it does level automation on each input via midi (with zero zipper artifacts) and sonically beats the pants off of anything that doesn't cost 10x more.

it's almost completely transparent, although it does lighten the bottom octave by .5db or so. being passive, it also drops the level by 12db or somesuch, so running it out into a pair of pre's is advisable.

when i got mine from audiomidi.com a few years ago, they apparently had a warehouse full of them for around $80 a pop. don't forget to get the 9v adaptor as well.

so for those who've wanted to try analog summing, this is a no risk way of getting your feet wet. i preferred mixing into it a LOT more than itb, which, if it's not already clear, i never could make peace with.

enjoy!


gregoire
del ubik

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

I've reworked those for years. Poor man's plug in automation done cleanly with MDAC's. Replace the coupling caps with 220 uf 25 volt Panasonic FM caps and the low end won't go away. Replace the TLO84 quad opamps with LT1359's and the noise and grit will go away.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

I've reworked those for years. Poor man's plug in automation done cleanly with MDAC's.

Originally Posted by SoundChances

What are the inputs and outputs on this thing?
1/4" balanced? Unbalanced? XLR?

Originally Posted by u b i k

1/4" unbalanced, like the rnc.


gregoire
del ubik

Originally Posted by u b i k

i've been meaning to clue people in to this for a long time.

before i got a nicerizer, i used a little green passive summing box from niche called the 'audio control module'. it has 8 ins, 8 outs and a stereo mix. it does level automation on each input via midi (with zero zipper artifacts) and sonically beats the pants off of anything that doesn't cost 10x more.

it's almost completely transparent, although it does lighten the bottom octave by .5db or so. being passive, it also drops the level by 12db or somesuch, so running it out into a pair of pre's is advisable.

when i got mine from audiomidi.com a few years ago, they apparently had a warehouse full of them for around $80 a pop. don't forget to get the 9v adaptor as well.

so for those who've wanted to try analog summing, this is a no risk way of getting your feet wet. i preferred mixing into it a LOT more than itb, which, if it's not already clear, i never could make peace with.

enjoy!


gregoire
del ubik

Originally Posted by u b i k

i used a little green passive summing box from niche called the 'audio control module'.

Originally Posted by u b i k

not only that, but in a modern hybrid outboard+daw studio it has an invaluable role: daw-based automation of levels post-outboard.

this is critical for things like using an outboard compressor and eq on the lead vox, and being able to automate the levels post compression. currently, the only other way i know of to do this, with good results, is to have a badass analog desk.




that sounds like something i'd be into, but i'm not too keen on panasonic caps, i like my tone softer, even blurrier. any other options?


You could buy the cheapest, crappyist Chi-com made electrolytics, but reliability problems may occur over time. Also consider the panasonic bipolar caps, nice and dark if you like capacitor filtering.

i dont' usually like things squeaky clean, so i'm not sure about this one. do the lt's have a sound?

All opamps have a sound, this one is much more neutral than the bifet TLO series which are zippy. Remember, the TLO's are the chip that drove up the price for vintage discrete consoles!


gregoire
del ubik

Originally Posted by Unknown soldier

Can you use it without MIDI? Do you need to set any midi commands or messages?

Originally Posted by u b i k

i've been meaning to clue people in to this for a long time.

before i got a nicerizer, i used a little green passive summing box from niche called the 'audio control module'. it has 8 ins, 8 outs and a stereo mix. it does level automation on each input via midi (with zero zipper artifacts) and sonically beats the pants off of anything that doesn't cost 10x more.

it's almost completely transparent, although it does lighten the bottom octave by .5db or so. being passive, it also drops the level by 12db or somesuch, so running it out into a pair of pre's is advisable.

when i got mine from audiomidi.com a few years ago, they apparently had a warehouse full of them for around $80 a pop. don't forget to get the 9v adaptor as well.

so for those who've wanted to try analog summing, this is a no risk way of getting your feet wet. i preferred mixing into it a LOT more than itb, which, if it's not already clear, i never could make peace with.

enjoy!


gregoire
del ubik

Originally Posted by bit mangler

drelectrik,

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Originally Posted by u b i k

. don't forget to get the 9v adaptor as well.

ubik

Originally Posted by bit mangler

sorry because I thought it was the same power supply which ubik had advised to purchase

Originally Posted by darjama

It's in pairs, so panning automation would have to involve volume changes on two channels, probably a bit tricky to do over two channels. I'd probably suggest automating pans ITB.