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Attn: octopre owners
Old 19th June 2005
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Attn: octopre owners

Is there a way to set the default start up parameters? Mine always turns on in 88.2 and 24 bit and I always work at 48/16 bit. Sometimes i forget and get "peeved" cause nothing works right... until duh! for got to set the focusrite...
It (octopre) is the master in the system so everyting else gets weird etc... how can I make this stop??

Thanks
FB
Old 20th June 2005
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how can I make this stop??

Sell it and buy somthing good! The octopre smells badly!!
Old 20th June 2005
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Tell me, are there any adults here or is this the high water mark of the GS forum?

usefull comments are welcome, all others ...

FB
Old 20th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Farmerbrown2200
Is there a way to set the default start up parameters? Mine always turns on in 88.2 and 24 bit and I always work at 48/16 bit. Sometimes i forget and get "peeved" cause nothing works right... until duh! for got to set the focusrite...
It (octopre) is the master in the system so everyting else gets weird etc... how can I make this stop??

Thanks
FB
Nothing you can do about it. It's written in the software which is installed in a eprom on the digital card. If Focusrite decided to change it, (better chance of the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl) you would have to unsolder an IC and install a new one. (Sorry no sockets here)
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Old 20th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Farmerbrown2200
Is there a way to set the default start up parameters? Mine always turns on in 88.2 and 24 bit and I always work at 48/16 bit. Sometimes i forget and get "peeved" cause nothing works right... until duh! for got to set the focusrite...
It (octopre) is the master in the system so everyting else gets weird etc... how can I make this stop??

Thanks
FB
I really wish I knew. That's the most obnoxious thing about 'em.
Old 20th June 2005
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I've had the same question since I started using the Octopre when they first came out came out...and I think if you are going to use the FR's AD card, you are pretty well stuck with the extra step...

Its really gotten to be a routine for me now, though - turn on the preamp racks, then push the Octo buttons to the correct setting...takes less than 2 seconds once you get into the habbit.
Old 20th June 2005
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I'm sure i'll get used to it too, i was just hoping there was a way around this. I guess if one day i get an external clock it will lock to that automatically? Thanks for the replies.

FB
Old 20th June 2005
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thought i'd send an email to focusrite (futile i know, but what the hey it only takes a second) , but their site is never up for two days now. strange.

FB
Old 20th June 2005
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I use one with an external clock and I still have to manually set the bit rate...
Old 20th June 2005
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Alternative solution

I used to own an octopre and can definitely identify with your complaint. Here are the steps to fix it:

1) Sell the octopre on ebay
2) Buy one of the *original* Presonus digimax that only runs at 44.1/48
3) Giggle to yourself because you fixed your problem, got a WAY better preamp, and pocketed a few hundred bucks to boot.
Old 20th June 2005
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kinda off subject, but is there a specific reason you're runnin' at 16/48?

if your final mix is gonna be to an audio cd i'd definately work in 24bit and dither down......16/48 just seems like an odd combination to me.
Old 20th June 2005
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or sell it and buy a 428. which retains the last settings..... better pre too.....
Old 20th June 2005
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16/48 just seems like an odd combination to me.

88/24 seems odd to me and that the default start up. anyway, my setup does
change depending on many things, but the point is to retain one setting on powerup, which appears to be set in the eprom, making this entire discussion moot!

As for all the octopre bashing, I really don't get it. Sonically this thing is more than okay, it rocks compared to my ada8000 (which is not to shabby for 250 bucks) and is the perfect uncoloured compliment to the Joe meek studio channels that i have. It also seems a good match to my MT umt70 mic. So sue me if you think i have no standards! The octopre has one a minor inconvenience that I can adapt to, and it's 96 k ready when i want to go there.

Doesn't anyone have anything more objective to say about its sonics? "better" is all in the eye of the beholder and rightnow I like it's clear uncoloured sound.

FB
Old 20th June 2005
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Farmer...remember that bashing the Platinum stuff is popular - make people look cool to the other kids...kinda like a lot of non PT users go out of their way to bash PTHD....

Those of us that have the Octopre, and use it quite a bit, have our own qualms about it...no, its not a Neve or API, nor are the compressors Smart or Fairchilds, nor are the convertors Prism or Lavry...and yes, the thing pales in comparison to my OSA pres....but they all live and work together very nicely.

The thing does what I ask, consistently, and without too much effort to get what I want during edit/mix...its given me some great sounding projects, as well as commercials/PSAs heard from Alaska to Venuzuela...

So is it the pinnacle of sonic superiority? Nope...but it is a good tool. Would I buy one again? Likely not, since there have been some REALLY good multiway pres come along that are priced about the same...but since I already have it, and its been paid for for a long time, I dig it.

Pay no attention to the nay-sayers.....if you like it and your clients like how you use it, then its a good piece...
Old 20th June 2005
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"Clear" is the word that everyone uses when moving from something ungood to the octopre. The reason is that Focusrite silver stuff is built on cheapo Japanese parts that tend to sound really bright. That is why people bash it. That being said, if you need something that's really quiet and you like brightness, you may be fine with this thing.

But combine an octopre with come cheap Chinese condensers (super bright!) and OUCH!! Harsh!

But yeah, it's a big step up from that Behringer pre you had. Good move.
Old 21st June 2005
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Originally Posted by lukelukeluke
"Clear" is the word that everyone uses when moving from something ungood to the octopre. The reason is that Focusrite silver stuff is built on cheapo Japanese parts that tend to sound really bright. That is why people bash it. That being said, if you need something that's really quiet and you like brightness, you may be fine with this thing.

But combine an octopre with come cheap Chinese condensers (super bright!) and OUCH!! Harsh!

But yeah, it's a big step up from that Behringer pre you had. Good move.
Brightness? Tell that to the mastering guy who was complaining that an album I did with multiple octopre's wasn't bright enough!

I'll agree that they're not Neve's, but if you're having problems with brightness, I wouldn't blame the pre. I'd blame the room, source and mic first. I know it's fashionable to say this, but those things are way more important then the pre.

But I digress, I still would like the thing to start up @ 44.1. My DMCL boots to what ever I have it switched to . . . though that's an unfair comparison.
Old 21st June 2005
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Oops I did it again...

Well after discussing this issue with Focusrite it seems I am wrong about them being reluctant to change the software. It seems that they have been working on this all along and have changed this among other things in their latest version of the Octopre digital card software. I don't have all the details, so don't bother to ask me now, but if you contact me in a couple of weeks I should have a cost and availability of the new version.

And I totally apoligise to all you guys for misleading you into thinking Focusrite does does not care about product support after the sale. That is certainly not the case.

Finnally I really don't want to get in a debate about "cheapo Japanese parts", but the last time I looked into any other manufacturer gear I saw the the same IC's, Resistors, and Capacitors that I see in Focusrite gear. I think if you actually did a little research you would find that mostly ALL electronic components are made overseas. I'm not aware of any US factories manufacturing NE5532's.

So if you excuse me, I'm on my way to the Casino to put some money on the Bills wining the 2006 Super Bowl.
Tony
Old 21st June 2005
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I used an Octopre for six months to record drums. Always thought it made them sound thin and boxy, despite many attempts to work with the device with it's own conversion as well as without. At some point I sold it and picked up some real pres (Chandler, Phoenix, Neotek) and the difference was clear as night & day the first time I used them. My conclusion: 8 pres + 8 compressors + 8 ch a/d conversion all crammed in 1RU for $1k sounds exactly like it should. YMMV
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