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Originally Posted by beatzz
Hey all!
I know for live performances many rapper perform with the shure SM57 or SM58, but for recording purposes have u heard of any mainstream rapper using a Shure SM58?
I'm asking because i know alot of artists such as 50 cent use the Sony 800 and some other rappers use the Newman U87 and U47 FET, but those are waay out of my budget.
I have tried cheap condendser mics like studio projects and audio technica....but they really do not have the "sound" i am looking for. They really sound smiley faced with no bite in the midrange. [B]THe vocals really sound different than commercial hip hop........and yes i do compress the hell out of them.
Any advice?
Any ideas?
if those mics are outta your price range look into these:
shure ksm32 or 44
audio technica 4050
Rode K2
what pres do you have at the moment?
you mention
THe vocals really sound different than commercial hip hop
to what extreme? sound better? sound dull or lifeless? sound cleaner??? what...
right about now if you vocals sound different than commercial tracks that could be a good thing. a lot of commercial tracks trully don't sound that good. for example... listen to 50's "Just a lil bit" then listen to anything on Luda's album... big difference in sound. luda's vocals are clean and upfront(the sound i like more)
50, you can hear the distortion, the heavy compression.. the strong ear piercing mids...
it all comes down to your production style. don't listen to the BS that most ppl say about hiphop like:
don't use reverb, compress the sh*t outta the vocals ETC...
going in i don't compress strong at all. usually 2:1 or 4:1 compression peaking at 3-4db. once i start the mix i'll either use a sv-315 or rvox with hydratone. the 315 i'll mess with a lil. if the track doesn't need much i'll just set rvox anywhere around 8-12
personally i'm a hiphop and r&b producer/engineer... i perfer r&b ofcourse b/c you actually have to showcase your mixing skills, but r&b is clean.. i had a squad over here the other day.. i just finnished their mixtape. you know homie had the nerve to say.. the vocals are to clean, hiphop isn't pose to sound like that LOL
after about a 20minute talk he still didn't understand how or why i like my vocal sound to be clean. after getting a few copies to ppl, the thing ppl kept asking him was... "where did you record the vocals"
as of late i've had quite a few ppl asking me what i'm using, or where do i mix who's my engineer... they're kinda shocked when i tell um what all i have. i mix at the crib with nuendo 3(no pro fools over herem no sir) and i'm my engineer.
that atleast tells me ppl are liking the sound i'm putting out vs the avg heavy compressed sound
theres just something about the sound of a sm57/58 that i can't stand when it comes to vocals.
for yelling rock vocals its a little better, but the few times i've delt with rock the akg414 and or shure sm7 were always better choices for the lead vox.
o, for live most of MY ppl use beta58's or some audio technica jump offs...