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Major Labels pressing more Vinyl
Old 14th October 2008
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Major Labels pressing more Vinyl

Sounds like the majors are actually considering pressing more vinyl.

Retailers giving vinyl records another spin - CNN.com*

If you want to sit down and listen to an album, (not in the car or on ear buds) then you might as well use a record.

...get a free itunes download of the record when you buy the wax

I think itʼs a great idea!

heres my friend's response:

Thats hilarious, only the recording industry would think vinyl is going to sell more than CD's. So now they are gonna lose even more money making records, looks like they are desperate and trying to figure out a way to sell some albums. Well i guess you will have a field day buying records for $1 when they find out they cant sell any records and they become worth nothing. It makes no sense because most people listen to records in there car, how are they gonna listen to vinyl in there car?
Of course you do cause you like records and have a ****load of records and listen to em, but people who have cd's are not gonna switch and go buy all there albums as new records. 480 million cd sales compared to 1 million record sales for the year and out of that 1 million most were probably DJ's. Good luck getting people to switch to records. Thats gonna be a bust if they rerelease everything in vinyl. How many people do you know that even have a record player, just to listen to records at there house? And im not talking about musicians or DJ's. The download thing just makes it even more stupid, why buy a record when you can just download the songs for cheaper, records also take up space. The whole reason people download songs is cause they dont have to keep a CD which takes up space, they can have all there music on a mp3 player. Records would take up more space than a CD. It seems like a desperate attempt from the record comapnies to make more money.
Old 14th October 2008
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I think your friend is wrong Alex. Not that vinyl will ever sell in anything near the same quantities as before, but I can easily see it becoming the format of choice for audiophiles and those who just like owning the product. I've been saying for a long time, if they really want vinyl to work someone should market a good quality programmable turntable, the best of all worlds, then records really could become cool again.
Old 14th October 2008
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My wife was at Costco the other day, and she bought me a bunch of vinyl at $12 a pop... Not bad, and pretty cool that Costco had them.
Old 14th October 2008
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I think your friend is wrong Alex. Not that vinyl will ever sell in anything near the same quantities as before, but I can easily see it becoming the format of choice for audiophiles and those who just like owning the product. I've been saying for a long time, if they really want vinyl to work someone should market a good quality programmable turntable, the best of all worlds, then records really could become cool again.
That would be nice.
I also think vinyls are nice, I also like my ipod for it's practical side but when I'm home I rather listen to only one cd, put the cd in and listen.

There's too much choices on the ipod for me, and of course there's only mp3s on it.

Having a vinyls collection could be a good thing to actually enjoy listening to music instead of "over-consuming" it.

Vinyls are more "cool" to own IMO.
Old 14th October 2008
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quad records
anyone heard of those.Quadraphonic sound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if they do it I hope they do it right


Old 14th October 2008
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At popkom in berlin a music publisher/distrubuter told me that vinal sales were up 60 percent in the US this year.
I love vinal because your forced to listen to the music and not treat it as backgroud noise. good marketing can make vinal popular again, at least for a short while
bigos
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Old 14th October 2008
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good product not good marketing.

it shouldn't take a nice rack to sell something great

guessing but wasn't the cool part about buying records finding the music
Old 14th October 2008
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Maby a really famous artist can come out with a vinal only release of a new album. For example if metallica or madonna would have made their last album vinal only Im sure ther would have been a huge resurgance among the masses as well as a shortage of available record players on the market.

maby radiohead? there fans seem to be pretty dedicated
Old 14th October 2008
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I noticed that the Best Buy on LaBrea now has a small section dedicated to vinyl.

I suspect it's nothing more than a novelty.
Old 15th October 2008
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I suspect it's nothing more than a novelty.
as is music.
Old 15th October 2008
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This seems noble and all, but the biggest set back is the PRICE of these things! I have a few friends that run independent record stores and they can't afford to stock these. The distributors are giving exclusive deals to Best Buy. Vinyl records aren't going to make a big "comeback" without the record store helping out. There is nothing less fun than buying music at Best Buy.
Old 15th October 2008
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the vinyl resurgence isn't big - but it is addressing an area of the market that has never fully gone away. It's not going to save the industry - and it CERTAINLY isn't going to help the majors, seeing as most of the acts that do well on vinyl are from specialist genres such as garage rock (ahem!!) or stoner etc ..
Old 15th October 2008
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Vinyl

Over the last 20 years we always noticed that Vinyl never went away in the UK market when visiting.
Heard a story last month that a clerk in local Fred Meyers store, part of a big chain, who ordered Vinyl instead of CD's by mistake, he thought he was going to be fired and the store management thought they would be stuck with them. Turns out that they sold in a day and the store ordered more.
Frankly I miss the cover art and liner notes, hate using a microscope just to read some inane credits in a CD booklet.
Turntables are a bit inpractical for the car...so the only thing that bothers me are these turntables that convert analog to mp3's when hooked to you laptop...why not .wavs. I only put .wav files on my iPod and then I still have to suffer the lousy AD conversion
Old 15th October 2008
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Ive always loved Vinyl and would love a resurgence. Just include a mp3/wav/whatever download with each Album. Then you can just burn your own CD and it wont be such a big deal when it gets tossed into your console in your car by mistake without a cover.
Old 15th October 2008
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Vinyl will become less and less viable to produce as the cost to make it rise and the last few remaining plants start to close down. Music distribution has been completely changed by MP3s and won't change from that.
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Ive always loved Vinyl and would love a resurgence. Just include a mp3/wav/whatever download with each Album. Then you can just burn your own CD and it wont be such a big deal when it gets tossed into your console in your car by mistake without a cover.
Several independent labels already do this.
Old 15th October 2008
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I buy vinyl every time I possibly can. I think it's a great idea.

And the idea of a digital download included in the price of the vinyl is something my band was JUST talking about doing with our next record a few days ago.

I'm psyched.
Old 15th October 2008
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Vinyl will become less and less viable to produce as the cost to make it rise and the last few remaining plants start to close down. Music distribution has been completely changed by MP3s and won't change from that.
I heard people say the same thing ten years ago, yet CDs are dying and vinyl sales are rising.
Old 15th October 2008
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I'm waiting for T Bone's Code.
Old 15th October 2008
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i know people who can't get things pressed until february as the demand
is that strong. it would be so great if the mike spitz of vinyl came around and built
a green record plant that was pressing vinyl for today that was affordable. i think
you should have access to free cd's aiff files and mp3's with the purchase.
the thing that really throws it over the top is when people really do things
well.........vinyl lets you see why 2" tape is still the finest recording medium.....
when beautifully cut and pressed, it is the opposite of the mp3: it has real
substance and weight: literally and figuratively - people devote their lives
to craft on both sides of the glass and life is precious



be well


- jack
Old 15th October 2008
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It isn't new news... I've been buying newly pressed 180 version vinyl offerings for the last 4-5 years I think. My favorite records... I usually end up buying them on vinyl.

I have an old Marantz stereo in my living room that is dedicated to vinyl.

The future, like T. Bone has noted is full of diversity... no single format will win in the end. Vinyl will be pressed, cd's will be sold.. dvd audio will probably stick around, mp3's will be downloaded etc..

Here's to diversity of sound boys!!

I am LOVING the sound of vinyl, and the feel of music piped through 1973 in my living room...
Old 15th October 2008
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Maby a really famous artist can come out with a vinal only release of a new album.
It's actually quite the opposite. Small labels with dedicated fans do vinyl only releases.
Old 15th October 2008
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resurgance

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My wife was at Costco the other day, and she bought me a bunch of vinyl at $12 a pop... Not bad, and pretty cool that Costco had them.
? but I might consider applying for a Costco card if it were true.

Another note, while US and UK is still hip to vinyl, Latin America seems to have gone 99.9% to digital medium. Try to find a selection of new latin music (not including Ricky Martin or Reggaeton DJ singles) on Wax.

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I love vinal because your forced to listen to the music and not treat it as backgroud noise.
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Well Put

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Frankly I miss the cover art and liner notes, hate using a microscope just to read some inane credits in a CD booklet.
My friend had no concept of liner notes. The fact that an intelligent person actually sat down and listened to the entire album and wrote something decent , (granted sometimes boring), about the music is reason enough.

At one point people actually used to sit down and listen to a record in its entirety, and read these liner notes, as most of us now do while watching the latest movie from hollywood. To my friends credit, he noted that at one time the industry used to release complete albums, not just singles and a bunch of album fillers.



It is a good suprise to see that so many gearslutz are hip to the idea of buy the wax get the download.
Old 15th October 2008
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some cds have all the notes , some even have a screen saver
thats way more than you can get from a record.

I think the only way Id buy a record and record player is if it was quad.
Old 15th October 2008
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I think the only way Id buy a record and record player is if it was quad.
Quadrophonic

you know, making a master with 2 extra channels of reverb sounds like fun
Old 15th October 2008
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vinyl head

I love vinyl, at last count I had over a 1000 records, some new mostly old. I love the way it sounds. I have an older 200 watt Marantaz Tuner and I have a higher end Kenwood and Pioneer Turn tables with Ortofon cartridges for playback. I have an old set of JBL hifi speakers I scored from my dad, and every time I hear them a huge smile pops up on my face. I have compared cd's to vinyl and when it comes to the sound of older recordings, vinyl can't be beat. If you ever get a chance listen to The Beatles on vinyl, it will blow you away.
Old 15th October 2008
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I think it's partly a pop culture thing, I've noticed the megastores that stock vinyl in Manchester also place them alongside posters and 'vinyl frames' so you could stick it on your wall if you wish. However, I also think that shops have released that the majority of their shelf-space is taken up with CDs nobody wants. Perhaps they've released that people who like vinyl still buy physical music, rather than a download? As for the price of vinyl, it fluctuates wildly in Britain. Some albums cost nearly £30 and others £8! More often than not it's the re-issues that cost an arm and a leg and chart stuff is still cheaper on vinyl.

I do worry about what's going to happen with regards to the pressing plants, but surely if demand is growing logic would dictate that it might be time to open a new one if the trend continues.
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Another note, while US and UK is still hip to vinyl, Latin America seems to have gone 99.9% to digital medium.
AFAIK there are no operating pressing plants in Latin America. I know there was one for sale in Venezuela a few years ago. One company that makes vinyl pellets manufactures in Columbia.
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It seemed for awhile that Djing and electronic music was carrying the vinyl torch all through the early 2000's, but slowly even that has been turning over to digital medium. There are still labels that press vinyl, but even so, most of the old record stores are gone. If your a small Indie Label vinyl is extremely expensive, but I've always liked the idea with full art, and feeling like you have a product. My studio is still a little cluttered with a few hundered albums on the floor.
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Quote:
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some cds have all the notes , some even have a screen saver
thats way more than you can get from a record.

I think the only way Id buy a record and record player is if it was quad.
bloody hell! How'd you do that!!?
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