I snuck an un-authorized peak at the secret dealer FAX just today.
Digi002 - firewire PT LE controller & interface.
I can only remember so much - but it looked cool.
4 mic pre's
8 ins/8outs 24/96
8 touch sensitive faders
8 motion sensitive knobs
8 small scribble strips
some control strip features & headphones outs
Depending on the price - it will definitely make Digi001 and maybe MOTU 828 owners envious. It looks to me to be a much better "take the session home" option than the mBox.
Oh yeah - the other feature is that when its not connected to ProTools - it actually works as a standalone mixer. I think that's only the second time any digidesign hardware worked as a standalone anything !
I hope it works as a mini-controller for ProTools HD - but maybe it won't.
I think the Marketing boys are doing damage to MOA.
This unit is High priced
Another different vers. of LE
No Digi Net (but that's ok)
Doesn't work with TDM as a controller
No word clock
AC wall socket or plug pack. Either way not as mobile as the Laptop. Mbox is powered by the USB port.
Does this thing have any talkback options?
Alsihad should be scallable and I shouldn't have to re-load software just cos I want to use the Mbox now the the 002 when I get home. Then back at work on TDM and spend time track importing the location overdubs from the day before.
Just my initial thoughts and there are many more but I'm bored now.
I can't seem to get that PDF of alpha's.... But I agree, it does look ugly
If you have a small studio get the digi002 and a 8 in Adat AD convertor and you have 16 in 32 playback at 96k and 8 touch senstive faders.
Get a new G5 when it comes out and mmm they are getting close to my HD system. Intersting to see if the mic pres are better the 001 and also the A/D in the box.
Compare it to a VS2480, the Yammy AW stuff etc and it makes sense. I wonder what the fader latency is. If the fader pack worked with HD or TDM then why would someone buy a pro control or Control24.
In theory the 001 could support 96k. Over clock it and see what happens.
This also assumes there is a 96k version of lightpipe. Otherwise any lightpipe will be restricted to 48 or 44 but that's ok.
It will come down to price. A control surface should be dead easy and the price could be very cheap if it had an alterative to motorized faders.
If they have provided better latency at the recording monitor stage like 64 samples this will put it one step ahead of Mbox. But then if it can be done for 002 , then why not Mbox or are they to blame USB.
Will the 002 work through a firewire hub ??? Can you get track count and record onto a Firewire Drive from the laptop??
It is too early to really understand this unit and more details are required.
If this thing is to be 5 to 6k Aust ... I think it is a strange marketing unit and where will Mix Refurbs sit in the range.
A simple Firewire version of 001 and a seperate Firewire or USB Control Surface made a lot more sense.
Oh ! By the way ... Where the hell is Midi I/O and the time stamping anounced 6+ months ago.
Apple/Emagic + simple Apoggee firewire interfaces of your choice and config .... All very scallable from Laptop through to Power Computer VST style plugs or perhaps Hardware plugs.
MOA needs to be more obvious and transparent with what the hell they are up to??
I've heard list price is closer to $2500 US - so AUS$ should be $4400 or less. I think that means that US street price might be shooting for "under 2000" which will still keep the DIGI001 in the game (although I can't imagine why - It kinda blows).
I heard the RME stuff was cool, was looking at ADAT bridge before HD release. There is a lot of lightpipe stuff around, you could get a rosetta, a rme and use the 8 anlogue ins for non important stuff.
So have 10 ins via good AD's if the ones in the digi002 are like the digi001 stuff. Although they are probably the same as the 96 i/o.
I tested the 96 i/o last week after I got it I can hear the diff at 96 between it and the 192. The 96 i/o was meant to be better then a 888. oh it gets so confusing.
Does anyone think they will jump on the 96k or 88.2k recording stuff and how are you going to downsample for the CDaudio.
I don't understand why some think the 001 is such a dog.
I haven't got my Mbox yet so I don't know what latencies one has to put up with but any of these lower hardwares from MOA must be pretty cool for new starters or home systems and even mobile editing ...( That's what I want the Mbox for ... and a laptop)
I have been told the 002 will be more like 6k here in Aust. So could be expensive with a new Mac for a newbie . If you need to bit split with the 002 at 96k then it is still a bit short for a newbie to record the band with the drum kit.
An Mbox at 96 is cool for overdubs etc and even better if you have an Apogee to feed it.
I would have prefered to see a Firewire interface, USB Midi port, Small USB or Ethernet Control surface ... all seperate and PT scallable all the way to TDM-HD.
gotta tell ya, after seein' the cost of this new digi gizmo, i'm movin' closer to the realization that the basic radar project24 (the 24 analog i/o jobby), pound for pound, just to get started, is the way to go. why muck around when that much dinero is involved?
I have been playing with 96k with HD, ok I have started doing sessions, got a firewire case which takes removable IDE HD's. Had to up the buffer size when I played back 40-50 tracks of 96k off the one drive... Have to play with spliting the files over IDE drives. Cymbals sound so nice, distorted guitars not much diff. Multiply sample rates in the same session would be cool.
I think it looks a cool box, hey I had a motor mate, the faders do not compare to a control24. Like the look better then the control24 just to bloody high.