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Rosetta vs. Lucid 9624 A/D
Old 5th March 2003
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Rosetta vs. Lucid 9624 A/D

So I own a Lucid 9624 which sonically I am happy with in front of my Digi 001. It has no Superclock generation, so I'm still using the internal Digi clock. Meanwhile, a friend has a Rosetta which he isn't using because it doesn't have a clock sync input (the Lucid does). The Rosetta does generate Superclock.

I have an opportunity to trade my Lucid for his Rosetta. The real question: how big of a sonic difference is there between the two units, and if you like the Lucid better, would its sonic superiority be offset by any improvements gained by clocking my system off the Rosetta?

This swap would be structured so that either of us could reverse the deal if we're not happy, so it's a pretty low-risk proposition. But I likely won't have the chance to A/B the two convertors side by side.

I do trust my ears, but with a resource like this board, it seems silly not to solicit informed opinions.

Thanks in advance.
Old 5th March 2003
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Re: Rosetta vs. Lucid 9624 A/D

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Originally posted by writethis
I have an opportunity to trade my Lucid for his Rosetta. The real question: how big of a sonic difference is there between the two units, and if you like the Lucid better, would its sonic superiority be offset by any improvements gained by clocking my system off the Rosetta?
IMNTLBFHO... there is a large sonic difference between the two... with that said... Lucid makes a couple of outboard clocks that are remarkably good... the GenX-6, which is master switchable so all the outputs are spewing word clock or super clock... and the GenX-696 where the outputs are individually switchable between word clock and super clock... it also does 96k which the GenX-6 does not.

I hope this information is of some use.

Even if it's not... I still wouldn't trade a 9624 for a Rosetta... but maybe that's just me.
Old 5th March 2003
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Thanks Fletcher.
Old 6th March 2003
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I clock to my 9624 and not to the Digi 001 and I don't have an external clock (but am planning on getting one some day). For the money, I wouldn't trade. What other digital devices do you have that you need to clock to? I have a Digimax 96 and when I need to use it, I set it as the master clock, because as you said the 9624 doesn't generate a clock to other digital devices. However, I still never change the Digi from the clocking source of S/PDIF.

Regarding clock, I am considering the Genx6-96 that Fletcher is referring to, but I'm hearing that I probably should wait until the verdict is REALLY out regarding Apogee's new clock called "Big Ben." It hasn't been released yet, but there was a lot of excitement from those that went to NAMM. Sweetwater is selling it for around $1,300. I don't see it on Mercenary, yet.

I'm curious what people's opinions are between Big Ben, Aardsync, and the Genx6-96.

Hope this is helpful.
Old 6th March 2003
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Thanks for chiming in. I'll confess the digital stuff is still pretty new to me - I have nothing else that I need to clock, but a friend told me the sound of his Digi 001 rig improved greatly with the acquisition of a Rosetta, a big part of that resulting from the use of a clock source other than the 001.

I'm using my 9624 set to internal clock, running various pres through light compression and then into the 9624, S/P DIF into 001. Everything gets printed a track or two at a time. The depth, detail and definition are vastly improved vs. going straight into the Digi's line ins.

Is there a need to clock the 9624 off of 001? Is this even possible? Seems like the cheap Lucid clock is probably my next upgrade, but I want to make sure I'm squeezing everything I can out of what I've got.

Thanks in advance...
Old 6th March 2003
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Is there a need to clock the 9624 off of 001? Is this even possible? Seems like the cheap Lucid clock is probably my next upgrade, but I want to make sure I'm squeezing everything I can out of what I've got.
Lucid only recommends the external clock when you have more than three devices (I think). I'll have to dig up the email message to verify if it's two or three. Nevertheless, this wouldn't affect you since you only have one. Anyway, you do NOT want to clock INTERNAL, you want to clock to S/PDIF. This way, the 9624 is providing your clocking and you A/D conversion.

There is a noticeable difference when I'm clocking internally compared to having the 9624 do the clocking. Also, from what I'm told, it is always better to clock from the device that is doing the converting. So, again, the 9624 should be your clock, especially when you are tracking. But like I said, it is my "permanent" clock for everything with the Digi 001.

Hope this helps!
Old 6th March 2003
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I'm still interested if anyone can help us by doing a test between the two and sending it here for us to hear the difference. A simultaneous recording of some acoustic guitars and some vocals for a test would be great!!

If you need an ftp server or a website to host the files, I can provide one.

Thanks and Regards,
[Charles]
Old 6th March 2003
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duuuuude!

heartsoffire, you just made my day. I was under the impression that clocking the 001 externally required Superclock. I had no idea the answer was as simple as changing the 001 clock setting. Clocking off the Lucid is EXACTLY what I was wishing I could do.

Problem solved!

Thanks!!!
Old 7th March 2003
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I'm glad it worked out.

Just to follow up my comment about when to get an external clock, here is what I received from the Lucid support guy.

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I would not recommend using a dedicated word clock generator/distributor unless you have more than 2 devices which can sync directly to word clock. Obviously the AD9624 can and the Digi 001 can not. I'm not familiar with the Presonus unit. For your purposes, the AD9624's clock should be sufficient.

Trent Wagner
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Old 11th June 2016
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Rosetta 200 vs. lucid 9624

BIG difference here....I have both and the sonic clarity & definition of the Rosetta is audibly much better....period!
Old 11th June 2016
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BIG difference here....I have both and the sonic clarity & definition of the Rosetta is audibly much better....period!
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Old 11th June 2016
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BIG difference here....I have both and the sonic clarity & definition of the Rosetta is audibly much better....period!

Would love to hear it...
Old 11th June 2016
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I was in this boat about a year ago and ended up with the lucid. I don't know how they compare but my recordings got a whole lot better than they were when I used a saffire 56 with a few outboard pres going into it.
Old 11th June 2016
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Apogee 200

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Old 12th June 2016
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