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Old 19th July 2008
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why is my new computer popping/clicking/skipping like my old computer did?

I have a new HP Pavilion Computer with 4 gigs of RAM, 2.6 intel 2 duo core processor, 500 gigs of hard drive, etc etc... I use Adobe Audition 3.0 and am still getting the same clicks and pops that I got before. It's almost impossible to record 1 MIDI track with a vsti. Do I need to change something? buffer size? is it something with my firepod going into my computer? Any help would be great. Thanks

Jeff
Old 19th July 2008
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I have a new HP Pavilion Computer with 4 gigs of RAM, 2.6 intel 2 duo core processor, 500 gigs of hard drive, etc etc... I use Adobe Audition 3.0 and am still getting the same clicks and pops that I got before. It's almost impossible to record 1 MIDI track with a vsti. Do I need to change something? buffer size? is it something with my firepod going into my computer? Any help would be great. Thanks

Jeff
Man that sucks, I've never used Adobe Audition so I can't give you any specifics, I found this on their site.
It sounds like a compatibility issue, probably with your OS. Give that a try, hopefuly it works. Good luck.
Old 19th July 2008
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First, of course, check your hardware and software buffering settings. The most common source of pops and clicks is hardware buffers and/or software monitoring latency buffers being set too small. Low latency can be important when you're playing soft synths in real time or monitoring through the software [which is ALWAYS too slow for me] but much of the time, you can afford to set your buffers a little bigger and avoid drop outs and glitching.

You don't tell us what OS you're using.

Whether it's XP or Vista, knowing it's from HP, I'm assuming there is a huge PILE of crapware running in the background.

Big vendor machines typically come completely junked up with unnecessary programs running in background.

Last two big vendor machines I optimized had close to seventy background processes running. Enough to bog down even the relatively lean, mean XP. I can only imagine what they would do to bloated-pigware like Vista. [You can find specific instructions on trying to optimize Vista on the web. Good luck.]

By contrast, it's entirely possible to get the number of running processes (in XP, anyhow) after boot down to 20 or below without giving up anything much beside a bunch of idiot buttons cluttering up your systray.

Also, of course, anti-virus software running in background is typically the single biggest drain on system resources. Since garbage like Symantec/Norton is all but worthless anyway and can actually be used by malware to protect the malware from removal by AV tools which actually are a little more effective, it's my practice to remove it completely. (You'll likely have to use the Symantec/Norton Removal Tool downloadable from their site -- the package gets in everywhere and is a total pain to try to remove otherwise.) I don't much care for MacAffee, either.

I put AVG on my mom's lappy 'cause she's a naive user -- but I haven't used background anti-virus ware since the 90s. You have to be careful -- but, guess what -- you have to be careful ANYWAY -- all the major AV software misses as much as 80% of current threats according to studies by the data security indsutry. Most important protections are keeping your OS, browser and all internet-using software like media players patched and up to date and not doing stupid stuff like download "special media players," "special video codecs" from porn sites, and not having anything to do with crack/warez or other software from dicey sources.

(Watch out for the dreaded Quicktime... a lot of us need it for video work -- but Apple is pretty terrible about allowing vulnerabilities in it to go unfixed, even as they're generally pretty good about other fixes. Don't know why. I had to abandon QT Pro 6.5x when Apple sent out an advisory to not use it on an internet-connected computer under any circumstance -- and then demanded full price to upgrade to 7.x. I said screw it, and just DL'd the free version of the QT player to get the codec. -- But it ticked me off. I've never been asked to pay full price to get what amounted to a security fix before. Pretty high-handed.)

I know some folks like Audition -- I used to use the original product, CoolEdit, long before Adobe bought it. I can't say the Adobe ownership issue inspires confidence. (They also bought two of my primary development tools, Dreamweaver and Flash. Very much not a fan of the company.)

[Check out your licensing -- you may have the option of downgrading from Vista to XP. Don't know the details but I do know the option was available with some packages.]
Old 19th July 2008
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Ditto everything the previous poster said.

I would also check to see what driver Audition is using. Although I'm not familiar with Audition (I use Samplitude & Sound Forge), if you are using a driver like MME or WDM, you should see some improvement from switching to ASIO if it is supported.
Old 19th July 2008
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Good point on drivers!

Ironically, I ended up using the WDM/KS (special 'high performance' kernel streaming drivers for my MOTU 828mkII) in XP because I had problems with the ASIO drivers. But I've talked to others with the same hardware, OS, and even DAW (Sonar) who had the precise opposite experience. So you might want to check all your options.

Do not give up!


[And even though I am personally not a fan of Vista, there are a number of savvy, tech-oriented users who say that when properly optimized it's not that bad. Then again, there are plenty of other equally savvy users who have the contrary experience. But don't give up hope. Ever. heh ]
Old 20th July 2008
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thanks for the help everyone. I'm on Vista Premium 64 bit. Adobe Audition does seem to freeze a lot. I increased the latency of my firepod which helped with a lot of the clicks and pops. It's just a lot harder to record my synth parts now. I would use Sonar 7 Producer Edition but I can't seem to get Massive to work in it for some reason. I tried to make it scan my VST folder but it doesn't seem to work. hmm
Old 20th July 2008
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Try a hard boot on both....can't hurt. Also could be firewire cable or slot.
Old 20th July 2008
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yeah I have a Firewire PCIe card with Texas Instruments chipset but I didn't put it in my computer. I'm just using the one on my desktop right now. Would that be a good idea to start using it?
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